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Fri, 12-19-2008 - 2:28pm
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Fri, 12-19-2008 - 2:30pm

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I understand what you are saying, but I think we have to consider society expectations.

 

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Fri, 12-19-2008 - 2:37pm

"Their society expected mothers to nurse their babies (that was one of their roles and contribution to society), they didn't expect *other* mothers to do it for them unless absolutely nec."


How do you know that?

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Fri, 12-19-2008 - 2:39pm

She informed me that her nipples were cracked and bleeding for the entire YEAR she nursed my brother, and you suck it up and do what you have to for your baby.


I think that bears repeating.

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Fri, 12-19-2008 - 2:39pm

>>>Biology didn't give us the option of feeding choices. When I think of "lack of desire", I think of preference. Most of these women did not have that luxury.<<<<<

I guess it depends on what time frame. If you are living in the cave and two other nursing women are willing to take over, maybe they did have other options. If were living hundreds of years ago in a house with lots of extended family and other nursing women, maybe you did have other options. I'm not saying it would be most women, but maybe more than just those with low supply. If biology gave the caveman and woman the ability to kill their infant in order to survive (I can't even imagine) then I think biology could have given then the ability to think another mother could nurse an infant.

If we are just going with instinct, I can't imagine the instinct to kill your own newborn. That is way harder for me to imagine than wet nursing your niece or nephew.

>>>>But why would women back then have *incredible* difficulties BFing? They had older wiser women who had done it for YEARS. They had the art of BFing. These difficulties are looked at as "incredible" to us, whose to say it wasn't "minor" to them?<<<<

For the same reason that women can today read all about it, swear they'll never use formula, have two LC's help out and end up with cracked and bleeding nipples crying in the shower for any option other than bf'ing. Some women work their way through the problems and some look for any alternative. I am sure the more convenient alternatives lead to more use of the alternatives, but there were SOME alternatives before formula on the shelf and I bet more than a few women took advantage of them when they otherwise didn't really have to.

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Fri, 12-19-2008 - 2:43pm

>>>My guess is that infanticide would be more likely carried out on children born with deformities who would be viewed as a detriment to the clan. <<<<

I thought it would also include when there were too many babies being born, or not enough food to go around (that baby might nurse at first, but then will be another mouth to feed for a good number of years).

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Fri, 12-19-2008 - 2:43pm
<<"Their survival depended on populatiing the earth."

But how do you know THEY thought along those lines?

 

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Fri, 12-19-2008 - 2:47pm
I was going to suggest soy, as well.
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Fri, 12-19-2008 - 2:49pm

>>>BTDT with all three scenarios, and I know they suck. But I guess I've always looked at it as I'm not nursing for me. I'm doin' it for my babe. <<<<

I get that, and I agree from a personal standpoint. But not all women feel that, today in the USA or today in developing countries, it appears a couple hundred years ago not all mom's felt that way and so I'm venturing a guess that among the very early mom's there were some that also didn't feel this way.

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