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Fri, 12-19-2008 - 8:08pm

>>>>Oops, I guess I didn't clarify. What I meant was, if mom was nursing her own PLUS another woman's baby, or two other woman's babies, she'd be laid up all day!<<<<

I agree - especially if both are newborns, and even more especially if back then they nursed babies several times an hour!

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Fri, 12-19-2008 - 8:12pm

Well I hope you can understand that I may not have had the same course and thought primitive meant earliest human period. They should fix the dictionary if this is offensive, because the dictionary says that is what primitive means. I did not mean to offend anyone. What do I say instead if anyone could be so kind as to enlighten me rather than simply call me out. Do I say caveman language? HG language? I shall use whatever term the educated women of the board tell me is appropriate if only someone could be so kind as to tell me what that IS.

I'm suddenly feeling like I'm in a GEICO commercial.>>

Bwahaha. I've been thinking that too with all the talk of cavemen. FTR - I'm not personally offended at all! Just my scholarly sensibilities. I can understand your use of the word primitive if you meant early. I think maybe Holly's beef (and mine) are from the fact that a lot of times, languages that were outside the indo european variety have been called primitive because they were seen as inferior. Can you understand the mix up? Language is fluid and definitions are not static. So primitive, historically speaking, has sort of taken on a negative and insulting connotation. I can understand somebody not realizing that and I think you probably didn't mean it that way. To avoid confusion, it would probably be more appropriate to call them early languages, or prehistoric. :D




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Fri, 12-19-2008 - 8:14pm

and even more especially if back then they nursed babies several times an hour!>>>

Back then, lol?! My baby must be prehistoric too cause she nurses soooooo much. Even at 11 months old, we have days where she's at breast probably 20 times! :D




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Fri, 12-19-2008 - 8:29pm

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Fri, 12-19-2008 - 8:40pm
Ok, I will use early language next time. In that post I was specifically speaking of cavewomen - is that an inappropriate word too?
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Fri, 12-19-2008 - 8:41pm
Point taken!
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Fri, 12-19-2008 - 8:58pm
I don't think so, but I'm not an historian. My knowledge is more in the anthropology field, specifically of HG societies. Don't know much about cave people!



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Fri, 12-19-2008 - 9:05pm
Well if someone knows, shout it out. I don't want to be referring to early man as primitive man if that is now not politically correct.
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Fri, 12-19-2008 - 9:12pm
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Fri, 12-19-2008 - 9:15pm

If you subscribe to the Aristotelian mode of virtue ethics (and I do, personally), it would be easier to understand this. The theory behind the system is that instinct is something we do without thinking, but that with proper training and indoctrination basically from our societies, any action can become so accepted that it feels like instinct. I don't think mothers ever instinctually wanted to kill their babies, but it was such a norm in that society and that time frame that she didn't question it. She was raised to believe and understand that this is the way things were - so it isn't instinct, per se, but it is a belief so deeply ingrained that she doesn't think to question it. These sorts of norms are in every society worldwide. To accept it, we have to realize that anthropologically speaking, ethical relativism exists and while we find it shocking that a woman could accept the slaying of her child, we are also biased towards that thinking. In that society, it isn't shocking, it is what survival depends on.


True, true and true.

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