And unfortunately that is pretty common for us parents with medically fragile or disabled kids. I try to think of it as they dont want to see any child and pain and to them death means no pain.
But really, most are just big mouthed small minded people whom couldnt for a fraction of a second understand what caring for a seriuously ill/disabled child means.>>>>
I hope you know that when I was arguing about it not being natural, I wasn't implying we shouldn't do it.I was just arguing from an evolutionary standpoint, devoid of emotional attachment. I would never tell you something like that about your own child. Just saying, in case you may have thought otherwise!
"Another way to get at this is ask mom if she understands the risks of formula, and/or explain the risks. If she knows the risks and she knows the risks primarily relate to the baby's well being, that properly puts the focus on the baby. It's more direct than "what would the baby want" and puts mom in the control position WITH the information rather than making her trying to imagine the baby being in control."
BUT, with her in "control" she still knows she will not bear the brunt of whatever problems may arise.
>>>It's easy to say 'that won't happen to my baby' and dismiss the risks as 'insignificant' enough to use formula without an actual need. But if you look at it from the perspective of the person who actually is impacted, then it's harder to accept unnecessary risk. <<<<
I don't know that it is harder. The mom who would say the risks are insignificant in her case might just as easily say the baby wants the bottle. Then you are right back where you started, arguing and believing she's wrong but unable to do anything about it.
If mom thinks the risks are insignificant, why would she think her baby would feel differently?
I was just referring to a post from Harmony about med advances and keeping infants alive through them. It wasnt in light of any thing anyone here said, please dont worry.
Albini: Married Sole Custodian Bio-mum of 3 Mine plus 1 Ours baby.
>>>>Because mom is considering her own baggage<<<<<
IF mom has the ability to see the question through the eye's of her infant without projecting her own baggage or making any assumptions that the baby would view the issue similarly, maybe.
Has this ever worked for you, where you asked it this way and a previously pro-FFing mom, even knowing the risks, switched her views once it was asked this way?
FWIW, even though I know bfing is biologically superior, my kids seemed to like both bottles and breast the same, and bmilk vs. formula no noticeable difference there. I guess formula passed "the taste test." I wasn't doing both at the same time though, when we switched to formula we totally switched.
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and I think Gina even threw some philosophy in there!>>>
Technically, it was Ethical Theory. But I'll let it slide. LOL :D
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Oh definately. I wasnt upset.
And unfortunately that
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I do wanna! My major is social science so it's gotta fit in there somewhere, right?? Oh heck, who cares, it sounds interesting. :)>>>
Oh absolutely. I think an Anth course is great for any field in the liberal arts.
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Oh definately. I wasnt upset.
And unfortunately that is pretty common for us parents with medically fragile or disabled kids. I try to think of it as they dont want to see any child and pain and to them death means no pain.
But really, most are just big mouthed small minded people whom couldnt for a fraction of a second understand what caring for a seriuously ill/disabled child means.>>>>
I hope you know that when I was arguing about it not being natural, I wasn't implying we shouldn't do it.I was just arguing from an evolutionary standpoint, devoid of emotional attachment. I would never tell you something like that about your own child. Just saying, in case you may have thought otherwise!
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"Another way to get at this is ask mom if she understands the risks of formula, and/or explain the risks. If she knows the risks and she knows the risks primarily relate to the baby's well being, that properly puts the focus on the baby. It's more direct than "what would the baby want" and puts mom in the control position WITH the information rather than making her trying to imagine the baby being in control."
BUT, with her in "control" she still knows she will not bear the brunt of whatever problems may arise.
>>>It's easy to say 'that won't happen to my baby' and dismiss the risks as 'insignificant' enough to use formula without an actual need. But if you look at it from the perspective of the person who actually is impacted, then it's harder to accept unnecessary risk. <<<<
I don't know that it is harder. The mom who would say the risks are insignificant in her case might just as easily say the baby wants the bottle. Then you are right back where you started, arguing and believing she's wrong but unable to do anything about it.
If mom thinks the risks are insignificant, why would she think her baby would feel differently?
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Oh No!
It was no one on here at all. In RL.
I was just referring to a post from Harmony about med advances and keeping infants alive through them. It wasnt in light of any thing anyone here said, please dont worry.
Albini: Married Sole Custodian Bio-mum of 3 Mine plus 1 Ours baby.
*Praying for my best friend, my Dad*
&n
"If mom thinks the risks are insignificant, why would she think her baby would feel differently?"
Because mom is considering her own baggage - her own desire not to bf.
>>>>Because mom is considering her own baggage<<<<<
IF mom has the ability to see the question through the eye's of her infant without projecting her own baggage or making any assumptions that the baby would view the issue similarly, maybe.
Has this ever worked for you, where you asked it this way and a previously pro-FFing mom, even knowing the risks, switched her views once it was asked this way?
FWIW, even though I know bfing is biologically superior, my kids seemed to like both bottles and breast the same, and bmilk vs. formula no noticeable difference there. I guess formula passed "the taste test." I wasn't doing both at the same time though, when we switched to formula we totally switched.
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