Yet Another Senseless Death...

Avatar for islaywhisky
Community Leader
Registered: 01-06-2002
Yet Another Senseless Death...
4
Tue, 07-17-2012 - 10:37pm

This time a boy in Britain, of all places - directly caused by his circumcision when he bled to death.

I'm reminded of a poster on the old BabyCenter 'To circumcise or not to circumcise' Debate board who shrugged off circumcision deaths as: "So what? It happens." She was challenged and repeatedly asked, "How many deaths of circumcised boys is too many?"

She never replied.

http://www.kilburntimes.co.uk/news/queen_s_park_baby_bled_to_death_two_days_after_being_circumcised_1_1419367

I'm tempted to ask the same question on our own 'The Circumcision Debate' board, but we haven't had a single pro-circ poster there for at least a year - so what's the point?

We are left with boys who are circumcised in the UK because their parents demand it for religious or pseudo-religious reasons - and the death verdict is described as 'accidental'!

Christopher

"Education is the discovery of our own ignorance." Will Durant


"Almost any manmade phenomenon i

iVillage Member
Registered: 03-28-2003
Wed, 07-25-2012 - 1:56pm

Christopher, that's so tragic. It's hard to imagine anything worse than losing a baby.

In my opinion, one death of a healthy baby for unnecessary surgery is too many.

Avatar for islaywhisky
Community Leader
Registered: 01-06-2002
Sat, 07-28-2012 - 10:41pm

Ann, tragically the deaths across the world seem to be 'acceptable' when it's a boy who dies from surgery to his penis. It puts genital mutilation into stark perspective when compared with legislation protecting girls from exactly the same thing..

This deserves a thread of its own on this board or our debate board, asking why, "For the sake of all that is pure, lovely and of good report," we treat the male of our species with such disregard.

Christopher

"Education is the discovery of our own ignorance." Will Durant


"Almost any manmade phenomenon i

Avatar for islaywhisky
Community Leader
Registered: 01-06-2002
Wed, 08-01-2012 - 12:17am

"So, they think all of the deaths have come from parents who asked for someone who had never done it before?"

Point well made, Neolani.

As for the BBC film you spoke of, I find it very hard to seriously believe the tale it told. On the other hand, the BBC is renowned for its impartial reporting of news and perhaps it was a necessary, tragic report of a horrific procedure taken by a 'person' with no medical qualifications. As you described, degloving removes the outer and inner foreskin plus all the shaft skin in its entirety. It's the stuff of deliberate torture upon adult males - let alone a little boy. It's sickening to the point of incomprehensible revulsion. There was nothing 'accidental' about it! That he didn't die is the best that can be said for him, poor child.

Yet... when a boy suffers a 'simple' routine circumcision and he bleeds to death, his demise is described as accidental! Insofar as his death wasn't a deliberate act of murder, it was an accident.

Nonetheless, the law provides an alternative charge of manslaughter - and In my opinion this is appropriate. Non-prophylactic circumcision of a healthy penis is subject to censure when insufficient care by the doctor or pre-operative assessment is lacking. A conviction for manslaughter would be a lesson learned and a warning for others to think twice before wielding a scalpel on a helpless little boy.

The boy's parents should not be vilified for allowing the surgery. Right or mistaken, they chose circumcision in love for him.

Christopher

"Education is the discovery of our own ignorance." Will Durant


"Almost any manmade phenomenon i