21 to Buy Cigarettes

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Tue, 11-05-2013 - 9:01am

Buying cigarettes in New York City is about to become a lot harder for young people, as lawmakers on Wednesday adopted the strictest limits on tobacco purchases of any major American city.

The legal age for buying tobacco, including cigarettes, electronic cigarettes, cigars and cigarillos will rise to 21, from 18, under a bill adopted by the City Council and which Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg has said he would sign. The new minimum age will take effect six months after signing.

New York Raising Age to Buy Cigarettes to 21- http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/31/nyregion/new-york-approves-law-to-raise-tobacco-purchasing-age-to-21.html?_r=0

What do you think?  Do you agree with this new policy?

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Registered: 10-23-2001
Wed, 11-06-2013 - 11:17am
Like alchohol it's a drug so sure.

 

 

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Registered: 06-25-2008
Thu, 11-07-2013 - 8:33am

It is about time! They need to make it not only 21 years old to buy cigarettes but also to smoke them. That may help cut down on tobacco use.

Brenda

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Registered: 08-22-2009
Fri, 11-08-2013 - 8:26am

I am not a fan of limiting adult rights to omit subsets of adults.  You are either an adult with the responsibilies and rights that go along with that or you are not. 

While I do agree with the older drinking age that is because we have the stats to prove that deaths did go up when the drinking age was lowered.   That included many other people not just the person doing the drinking.  The smoking issue only involves the person smoking.

If they want to chip away at the adult rights for the 18-21 crowd then they should just change the legal age of adulthood to 21 in their state.   Instead what they are doing is limiting rights but not responsibilities. 

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Registered: 09-01-2002
Fri, 11-08-2013 - 9:06am

Yes, I like this.  The cigarette manufacturers have always maintained secretly ~ but never publicly ~ if they can get a person hooked on cigarettes very young ~ preferably before age 14 or so ~ then they have a customer for life.  It's so true.  Back at age 13, my brother and friends called a phone number and got **free** Joe Camel t-shirts.  That was the cartoon mascot for a tobacco company ~ now banned by court fiat, lol. So funny to remember that now.

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Registered: 09-01-2002
Fri, 11-08-2013 - 9:10am

emptynester2009 wrote:
<p><span style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size:medium">I am not a fan of limiting adult rights to omit subsets of adults.  You are either an adult with the responsibilies and rights that go along with that or you are not.  </span></p><p><span style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size:medium">While I do agree with the older drinking age that is because we have the stats to prove that deaths did go up when the drinking age was lowered.   That included many other people not just the person doing the drinking.  The smoking issue only involves the person smoking.</span></p><p><span style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size:medium">If they want to chip away at the adult rights for the 18-21 crowd then they should just change the legal age of adulthood to 21 in their state.   Instead what they are doing is limiting rights but not responsibilities.  <br /></span></p>

But if you ask most adult smokers when they started smoking, they probably won't say age 21.  Or even 18.  After the first few weeks of smoking cigarettes, I do believe smoking is no longer really a choice for most people. 

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Fri, 11-08-2013 - 11:06am

"But if you ask most adult smokers when they started smoking, they probably won't say age 21.  Or even 18.  After the first few weeks of smoking cigarettes, I do believe smoking is no longer really a choice for most people."

Exactly, which is why changing the legal age for smoking will not work. What does work is taxing the heck out of cigarettes and making them too expensive for most teens. The states with the most expensive cigarettes have the lowest smoking rates.

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Fri, 11-08-2013 - 12:26pm

ashmama wrote:
<p>"But if you ask most adult smokers when they started smoking, they probably won't say age 21.  Or even 18.  After the first few weeks of smoking cigarettes, I do believe smoking is no longer really a choice for most people."</p><p>Exactly, which is why changing the legal age for smoking will not work. What does work is taxing the heck out of cigarettes and making them too expensive for most teens. The states with the most expensive cigarettes have the lowest smoking rates.</p>

How could outlawing cigarettes until age 21 not work?   (Whether cigarettes are taxed highly or not highly.)

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Registered: 07-08-2001
Fri, 11-08-2013 - 4:14pm

<<How could outlawing cigarettes until age 21 not work?   (Whether cigarettes are taxed highly or not highly.)>>

It doesn't work now, outlawing them till 18.  Kids can still get cigarettes. There may be a small percentage of teenagers who don't know someone 21 or older that will buy their ciggies, but teens are wily and will find a way.

Like a pp said, it should not be simply purchasing them, but possessing them that will make it much harder. AND taxing the heck out of them.

However, I'm still a fan of this measure, only because it's a step in the right direction.

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Fri, 11-08-2013 - 8:07pm
Ideally cigarettes are too expensive for kids to buy to begin with. I don't think that's the issue. Kids that smoke have parents in the house that smoke too, The habit can't be curbed by making it less affordable for a kid.

 

 

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Fri, 11-08-2013 - 8:19pm

thardy2001 wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">emptynester2009</em> wrote:</div>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size:medium"&gt;I am not a fan of limiting adult rights to omit subsets of adults.  You are either an adult with the responsibilies and rights that go along with that or you are not.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size:medium"&gt;While I do agree with the older drinking age that is because we have the stats to prove that deaths did go up when the drinking age was lowered.   That included many other people not just the person doing the drinking.  The smoking issue only involves the person smoking.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size:medium"&gt;If they want to chip away at the adult rights for the 18-21 crowd then they should just change the legal age of adulthood to 21 in their state.   Instead what they are doing is limiting rights but not responsibilities.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p>But if you ask most adult smokers when they started smoking, they probably won't say age 21.  Or even 18.  After the first few weeks of smoking cigarettes, I do believe smoking is no longer really a choice for most people.  </p>

My kids see kids smoke outside their high school and they call it gross.  Would we (society) be as passive if it were alchohol?

 

 

 

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