Bill allows businesses to deny service

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Fri, 04-26-2013 - 3:52pm

OLYMPIA, Wash. (AP) — Several Republican lawmakers filed a bill Thursday seeking an exemption to the state's anti-discrimination laws just weeks after legal action was taken against a Richland florist who denied service to a gay couple for their upcoming wedding.

The bill introduced by Sen. Sharon Brown, R-Kennewick, would allow businesses the right to deny services or goods if they felt doing so was contrary to their "sincerely held religious beliefs, philosophical beliefs, or matters of conscience."

The measure would not apply to the denial of services to people under a protected class under federal law, such as race, religion or disability.

Brown said the measure seeks to protect people or religious organizations from legal persecution. "There's a glaring lack of protection for religion in state law," she said.

http://www.katu.com/politics/WA-bill-seeks-exemption-to-non-discrimination-law-204807621.html

This is a local story that many of my friends have been talking about.  What do you think of the bill introduced by Sen. Brown?

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Registered: 05-27-1998
Fri, 04-26-2013 - 4:54pm

I think business owners should have the freedom to deny anything they like. They may decide, after being boycotted for denying services, that it would have been a better business decision to provide the service, but this should be their choice, not the government's.

This is how a free economy should work.

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Registered: 10-11-2005
Fri, 04-26-2013 - 9:24pm

I disagree. And as I am a native Washingtonian hs am originally from Tri-Cities area {but now living in Western WA} you need to understand the culture in Eastern WA, if your not like us, we don't like you. Using your lodic, we don't have to serve you because your black. Do you really want to go back to those days? Because I really don't. 

This flower shop served these 2 gay gentlemen for YEARS, and all odd a sudden she's to religionist to service them because WA state passed same sex marriage? I call BS on it & her. 

~~Sam stitches well with others, runs with scissors in her pocket. Cheerful and stupid.
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Registered: 10-17-2012
Sat, 04-27-2013 - 12:15am

I agree with Ashmama.  Let the market decide rather than having morality imposed by the government.  This is exactly what happened following the Civil War, and seeing the loss of business, was unfortunately what prompted the Democrats to establish the Jim Crow laws.

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Registered: 05-27-1998
Sat, 04-27-2013 - 4:21pm

My point wasn't that it's okay to discriminate, only that businesses shouldn't be told by the government how to conduct their business. In the scenario you mentioned, white business owners refusing to serve black customers, what would likely happen is that people would refuse to patronize the business and it would fail. That's how the economy is supposed to work. People like what you stand for, they buy your stuff; if they don't, then they won't and you'll go out of business. This is a much more just way to do things than having the government intervene and tell you what to do.

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Registered: 10-17-2012
Sat, 04-27-2013 - 7:43pm

This flower shop served these 2 gay gentlemen for YEARS, and all odd a sudden she's to religionist to service them because WA state passed same sex marriage? I call BS on it & her.

I don't think it's BS at all.  There's a big difference between selling flowers to someone who's gay...which is not against Judeo-Christian teaching...and participating in, or providing services for, a gay marriage, which is against Judeo-Christian teaching.  Two entirely different things...like selling flowers to an adulterer, and being compelled to particpate in, and service an event celebrating that adultery.

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Registered: 01-25-2010
Tue, 04-30-2013 - 11:32am

 Another bad waste of time bill.  if you have a business you do not get to discriminate.  What's so hard to understand?  Religion does no matter as the US is a secular State.  public accommodations are just that  for the public. 

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Registered: 10-23-2001
Tue, 04-30-2013 - 2:39pm
I think there's a catch 22 here.. I mean sure, a business should be allowed to discriminate and restrict business to whomever they want but denying flowers for a gay weddding could come back to hurt them and their bottom dollar if the community protests and fires back at them for it...... Think Chik fil and their support of anti-gay church affiliations.

 

 

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Registered: 10-17-2012
Tue, 04-30-2013 - 11:40pm

Religion does no matter as the US is a secular State.

The US is anything but a secular state.

public accommodations are just that  for the public.

They're not "public accommodations," they're private businesses.

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Registered: 10-17-2012
Tue, 04-30-2013 - 11:59pm

Think Chik fil and their support of anti-gay church affiliations

CFA saw a 30% increase in sales during the brouhaha.

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Registered: 10-23-2001
Thu, 05-02-2013 - 9:21am

deenasdad wrote:
<p><strong> Think Chik fil and their support of anti-ga</strong>y church affiliations</p><p>CFA saw a 30% increase in sales during the brouhaha.</p>

Wow, that's wonderful!  I do remember the news pics of crowds lining out the door but I thought they took hits (as in $$ losses) b/c of the liberal outroars.