Boy Scouts of America

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Thu, 07-19-2012 - 2:02pm

NEW YORK — After a confidential two-year review, the Boy Scouts of America on Tuesday emphatically reaffirmed its policy of excluding gays, angering critics who hoped that relentless protest campaigns might lead to change.

The Scouts cited support from parents as a key reason for keeping the policy and expressed hope that the prolonged debate over it might now subside. Bitter reactions from gay-rights activists suggested that result was unlikely.

Boy Scouts of America Reaffirm Gay Ban- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/17/boy-scouts-gay-ban_n_1679854.html

 

My personal Facebook feed lit up over this with several friends threatening to either pull their boys from the program, or avoid enrolling them altogether because of this.  How do you feel about it? Would you pull your child out of BSA because of this policy?

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Mon, 07-30-2012 - 1:52pm

My son is a Boy Scout and within a year of becoming an Eagle Scout. In all honesty, I've never thought about the policies of the Boy Scouts and their official position on homosexuality. I think their position is wrong, but I will not pull my son our of scouting. He's gained so much through scouting. I am very sad that the Boy Scouts have this position. The church we attend is also against homosexuality. We go to church there, but it doesn't mean I agree with everything the church says is correct. I've never found a church in which I agree with their official stance on everything.

As a Boy Scout leader myself, I would personally never turn away a scout who was gay. I'd likely go out of my way to encourage him to stay, even if it meant that I was forced to resign as a leader. I'll always support kids who are doing the right thing.

I'm surprised to hear about the homosexual scouts who were stripped of their Eagle Scouts as I was pretty certain the offical word is, "Once an Eagle Scout, always an Eagle Scout" and no one can take that away from a Scout, regardless of what he does afterwards.

I wish the Boy Scouts would include homosexuals and I'm sorry that they don't. I will not pull my son out of scouting however.

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Wed, 08-01-2012 - 11:20am
I wouldn't have let my boys join before, and I won't now. If people felt strongly about this before, they really should have thought it over and not joined to begin with. This has not been a secret and has been out in the open for at least several decades.
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Wed, 08-01-2012 - 12:30pm
That's one way of looking at it. I think there are enough progressive-minded people who see the good in scouting and want to stay and improve an organization that is reacting in fear.

Not too long ago BSA was implicated in charges of sex abuse. They have made huge strides to educate their leaders, parents, and boys to create a safer I don't know if thst would have happened if all the good people had left.

I hope that those of us involved can effect change in this backward attitude. We have more power to make a positive change from within than from outside.
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Mon, 08-06-2012 - 7:12pm
I'm not sure I have a strong opinion either way on the issue. We are involved in Boy Scouts and will continue to be moving forward. But we're not in it or not in the program to make a political statement. *shrug*
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Mon, 08-06-2012 - 7:39pm

"If people felt strongly about this before, they really should have thought it over and not joined to begin with. This has not been a secret and has been out in the open for at least several decades."

I feel strongly about it and I am in support of gay rights, as I already mentioned."Should" I have thought it over and not joined to begin with. Hmmm. My call, not yours. It may not have been a secret and they may have been out in the open about it, but I didn't know, I didn't pay any attention, we just signed up our son as a Tiger Cub. I never thought about it. And yet I still feel strongly that the Boy Scouts are wrong about their position on this. Still glad my son joined and wouldn't change it. I feel as if it's an opportunity to (1) teach him tolerance and explain this issue to him, and (2) teach him that sometimes we're part of a group, church, school, etc. and we don't have to belive that all their rules are right.

If I only went anywhere or joined anything where gays were openly welcomed, I'd not be leaving the house. I am not gay, I am a woman happily married to a man, yet I support gay rights. Do you go to church? Do they believe in gay rights?

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Tue, 08-07-2012 - 10:51am

Exactly babydance.When you have that 7 yearold boy coming home enthusiastically about wanting to become a Cub Scout and all. It is not a time for a political speech towards your kid. I know the boy Scouts have had a bad rap abou tthe Gay issue. And No I do not agree with the exculsion of them Although recently my distict did have an issue with  something else, that due to that I am not totally disagreeing with other things. I will be honest, I have never truly thought about Gay rights til recently. Never thought about them getting married or other things. Just for me alone accepting Gay rghts as a whole has been an evolutionary thing to figure out where i stand. Now I feel it is okay for gays to be married. And to be accepted as a whole

But Becoming an Eagle Scout is the highest rank a boy can get and it is recognizable on any college application. The boys do learn alot.. They do learn about survival stuff. And in someways Scouts have come a long way in recognizing kids with disablities. But if you look at Scout as a whole. it is on the more conservative line of thinking. Boys do learn about archery, gun control(there is a merit badge for rifling and in Cubs a belt loop for BB guns) And of course safety with knives and all in setting up camp sites. etc.

Many boys in scouts do go on to the military too.

I just feel though that with the Gay rights it is something that is an evolutionary thing that will take time to resolve itself as the older generation leaves. This generation now may be the ones who change things.

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Tue, 08-07-2012 - 11:36am
My sons were cub scouts but as they got older I got increasingly uncomfortable with the exclusion of gays. After all, I would never let them join an organization that excluded blacks or Jews because they could not be "morally straight." so why was I OK with excluding gays? I wasn't. Luckily my kids lost interest after elementary school about the time I was becoming increasingly uncomfortable with it.