The Mental Illness Dilemna

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The Mental Illness Dilemna
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Wed, 08-01-2012 - 10:51am

Advocates for the mentally ill are faced with a deep dilemma each time extreme and deadly crimes are perpetrated by those with a mental illness. Obviously, such acts are not sane or normal; it beggars common sense to suggest that a person who is thinking straight would choose to kill or wound dozens of strangers. And yet most mentally ill people — even those with conditions that have been linked to violence, such as addictions and schizophrenia — are no threat to anyone other than themselves.

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For the mentally ill, who might be seen as canaries in this coal mine, stigma serves to wall them off from the social support and medical care that are necessary to spur recovery and prevent illness from leading to tragedy. As a society, we need to understand that risk does not equal destiny — and that believing it does is a self-fulfilling prophecy. It’s not wrong to see schizophrenia as a disease or even to appreciate its association with violence, but to view people with schizophrenia as hopeless can in some cases worsen their course unnecessarily.

Read more: http://healthland.time.com/2012/07/31/mass-murder-and-mental-illness-the-interplay-of-stigma-culture-and-disease/?iid=hl-article-mostpop1#ixzz22J3U2hHn

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Registered: 07-11-2006
Tue, 08-21-2012 - 9:47am

"it appears you want to fit all people and children into a box"

That's just silly. I am so opposed to fitting people into boxes, that early in the thread I expressed a dislike for trait theories. What I dislike about trait theories is that they try to put people into boxes. I do not believe that it is possible or helpful in any way.

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Tue, 08-21-2012 - 9:53am
why is it you feel the need to say it over and over again? I guess, I restate because I have a vain hope that someone could read a post that I've written and express an inkling of understanding about what I meant to say. I have a naive belief that if someone responds to anything that I have posted that they have at least an inkling of interest in what I think.
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Tue, 08-21-2012 - 10:38am
You're a patient woman, nisupulla.
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Wed, 08-22-2012 - 8:22am

I guess, I restate because I have a vain hope that someone could read a post that I've written and express an inkling of understanding about what I meant to say. I have a naive belief that if someone responds to anything that I have posted that they have at least an inkling of interest in what I think.

 

I guess SUPS, we all feel the same way. Maybe if people showed an inkling of interest in what other people think, they would receive the same respect in return.

I would think the fact that someone took the time or respond to you, share beliefs and experience, would be enough, but maybe what some people want .... is really something else.

But, yes, I hear you because I don't think you have given the time to show an inkling of understanding. Do you think you are the only one with something to say ..... :smileyvery-happy: I think it's funny you think the only thoughts that deserve any consideration are your own. I will have to ponder that.

Oh well, I guess you can't just answer the post either.

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Wed, 08-22-2012 - 8:25am

I wonder why some people feel the need to make comments like this. Maybe NUPS knows the psychology behind it.

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Registered: 12-17-2003
Thu, 08-23-2012 - 12:37pm

OK, well, then I've misread you.

Sorry SUPS, I just don't know how to engage you anymore and I have no clue what your views are.

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Sat, 08-25-2012 - 7:12pm

Why thank you. IRL, yes, I am usually very patient with people, but I tend to come off as abrupt online, so I appreciate your comment.

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Sat, 08-25-2012 - 7:21pm

what some people want .... is really something else.

OK, I'll bite. What is it that some people want? Am I "some people" ? What is it that you think I want beyond a written exchange of beliefs, experirences, opinions, etc.?

it's funny you think the only thoughts that deserve any consideration are your own

I do? What else do I think?

FWIW, Nisu is fine but SUPS is not.

 

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Sat, 08-25-2012 - 7:23pm

I have no clue what your views are.

Fair enough.

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Registered: 12-17-2003
Mon, 08-27-2012 - 8:51pm

Nis,

I am going to stop reading here. LOL ... I am very interested in your thoughts and initially enjoyed our discussion. However, I don't think, maybe, pondering is such a good idea in this format. Our conversation has branched so much, I don't even know what we're talking about and, to be honest, I think the context is being skewed because so many topics are being thrown out there. I almost feel as though this discussion has taken on a philosophical point of view. 

And sorry, I do feel you are just repeating yourself and, believe it or not, I do understand what you are saying .... just not in full agreement on every issue ... at this point though, I am not even sure what the issues are.

Parents, schools, resiliency, mental health, mental illness, genetics, adhd, ... my head is spinning.

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