Merry Christmas vs. Happy Holidays

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Merry Christmas vs. Happy Holidays
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Wed, 12-05-2012 - 8:53pm

So far in my real life, the whole Merry Christmas vs. Happy Holidays debate has been a Facebook thing only. But today I witnessed something at work that blew my mind.

I was helping patient number 1.  She waved at patient #2 whom she apparently had met yesterday.  They exchanged pleasantries.  Patient #1 said "Happy Holidays!" to pt #2, who replied, rather angrily, "No, it's Merry Christmas! We say Merry Christmas!" all the while pointing her finger somewhat aggressively at patient #1. Patient #1 stood there gobsmacked, as did I.  When Pt #2 left, I turned to patient #1 and said, "Unless you're Jewish."  She replied.  "And I am!"  She also said she was raised in another country and just doesn't get this American obsession with the holidays.  I wished her a happy Hanukah as she left.

I mean really!! Political correctness aside, Pt #2 was just plain rude!  I mean,  she claims to be such a good "christian."

I mean, say Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, or whatever floats your boat, but don't assault me for trying to wish you well.

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Registered: 10-23-2001
Thu, 12-06-2012 - 12:27pm
I have a few jewish friends on facebook, One posts there regularly. We always exchange appropriate holiday greetings, I don't know what the big deal is or why it's even out there for debate.

 

 

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Registered: 04-18-2012
Fri, 12-07-2012 - 10:18am

I don't get why it is a big deal either... but it is!  I saw a post on Facebook yesterday sharing the White House "holiday" card.  I was amazed at how many people were upset that it was called a holiday card and not a Christmas card.  You know that if they called it a "Christmas" card, there would have been an outcry from people saying it should be a "holiday" card. Seems like you just can't win these days!

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Registered: 10-17-2012
Mon, 12-10-2012 - 1:12pm

While some people do actively work to attack Christmas, it is actually a season in which many "celebrations" are observed, so simply offering a generic "Happy Holidays" doesn't seem inappropriate.  It is, however, insulting when that greeting is specifically substituted for "political correctness" to appease a few hateful rabble-rousers.

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Registered: 02-24-2010
Mon, 12-10-2012 - 6:32pm

I know Bill O'Reilley is on that bandwagon, my dh likes to watch him.  I prefer to say Happy Holidays to people I don't know well.  How is the clerk in the store supposed to know which holiday you are celebrating that is coming up?  Even if you celebrate Christmas, New Year's is around the corner; to me saying Happy Holidays means I hope they enjoy ALL the holidays coming up that they participate in.  It doesn't have anything to do with poliitcal correctness, it has to do with manners.

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Registered: 10-17-2012
Mon, 12-10-2012 - 11:14pm

Christmas is a Federal holiday and with almost 3/4 of the people in the country identifying as Christian, and another 24.5% of people not being radical DBs, you stand a pretty good shot of someone appreciating the sentiment and not being offended. Merry Christmas!

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Registered: 02-24-2010
Tue, 12-11-2012 - 12:48pm

What's a radical DB?

“Clearly," said Arthur,"you're an idiot- but you're our kind of idiot. Come on.” 
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Registered: 05-27-1998
Tue, 12-11-2012 - 5:03pm

I agree with both points. Happy Holidays is fine when you're just giving or receiving good wishes around the time of Christmas, Hannukah, Kwanza, Divali, New Year, etc. It's a good generic catch-all phrase.

What I can't stand is when people clearly mean Christmas and only Christmas, but are afraid to say Christmas for fear of offending someone. A case in point: a grocery store near us sells "holiday" cookies, which are shaped like Santa and presents (what other holiday could they possibly mean besides Christmas?) but doesn't hesitate to label the Star of David cookies as "Hannukah" cookies. Why not just call things by their proper names and start a dialogue if someone is offended rather than shutting down true discourse by coming up with "inoffensive" names for things.

I would rather us all be ticked off, wrong and offensive than politically correct!

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Registered: 01-21-2011
Tue, 12-11-2012 - 5:46pm

It seems there is a pendulum swinging and we're too far over on the side of political correctness these days. This debate over phrasing is people just trying to "out-polite" each other, which is ironic when they are rude about corrections. 

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Registered: 07-25-2007
Tue, 12-11-2012 - 8:03pm

Is Santa a Christian symbol or is he a secular symbol of the holdiay season?  If you're eating baby Jesus cookies, then definitley label them as Christmas cookies.  The easy solution would be to have one holiday cookie sign and all cookies related to the season would be under it.

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Registered: 03-29-1999
Tue, 12-11-2012 - 9:25pm

Santa originally referred to St. Nicholas who is a Catholic bishop and Saint.  Of course the myth of St. Nicholas in reference to Christmas is just that, a myth.  But the Christmas tree was originally a pagan symbol and the gingerbread man was a representation of the human sacrafices done at Saturnalia (and even for Christmas after Christians took it over.).  So there is very little about the holiday that is original to one religion.

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