New Standard for Tipping?

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New Standard for Tipping?
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Thu, 09-20-2012 - 8:46am

It’s a question we all face – what’s a reasonable tip for your waiter? After all, the last thing you want is to get on the bad side of the person who handles your food.

According to the New York Post, tips may be adding a bigger chunk to your bill.  Waiters in Manhattan now want a 25 percent tip, and some New York City restaurants that print “suggested gratuities” even present 30 percent as an option, the paper reports.

It’s not just wishful thinking – waiters are starting to get it. A study by Cornell University consumer behavior professor Michael Lynn, who examined 9,000 credit card receipts from a Poughkeepsie, N.Y. restaurant, found that more than a third of diners left tips greater than 20 percent.

Is 25% the new standard for tipping? Depends where you eat- http://bites.today.com/_news/2012/09/19/13967515-is-25-the-new-standard-for-tipping-depends-where-you-eat#comments

 

Wow!  25% seems a bit high!  How much do you generally tip your waiter/waitress?

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Sat, 09-22-2012 - 9:42pm
Depends on the restaurant...I've only worked in one where my credit card tips came on my check. The rest came out of the cash I owed back to the restaurant for people who paid cash. So if my cash due was $400 but I had $50 in credit card tips I would owe $350 cash back to the restaurant.
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Sun, 09-23-2012 - 2:41pm
If the service met my minimum standards then I tip 15% of the bill excluding the tax. They don't get tipped on a fee enforced by the government lol.

If the service was outstanding I tend to tip 20% of the bill excluding the tax. Now there have been times I have tipped well above 20% for simplicity sake. For example the other night I went to Denny's and ordered their $4 value slam. My food was perfect and the waitress was outstanding, but a 20% tip would have been 80cents. I couldn't leave that lovely young lady 80cents it was just absurd. I ended up tipping $2, which technically was a 50% tip, but I felt it was appropriate for the situation.

I personally think a 25% tip being the new standard is outrageous especially if the service simply meets minimum standards. If you aren't going above and beyond the call of duty to get your job done why on earth do I have to dig deeper into my wallet?

When service is not good I have left no tip and have often informed the manager of my frustrations. My disliking what I chose to order or the food being over/under cooked is not a service problem and I do not punish the server for that. But if my food is cold, my order is completely wrong, I'm never given refills, don't have adequate silverware, am treated rudely, etc those are service problems and I see no reason to reward bad behavior.

As for "suggested gratuities" being listed on the receipt for large groups I understand it. Often restaurants assign one server to a large party and they also have other smaller tables to work. I think this is stupid considering the extra work that goes into assisting a group and the manager should have enough staff available to meet restaurant needs. I've only seen these suggested gratuities list 30% and only for parties of 6 or more. If the service is good I don't have a problem with this. If it isn't then I'm happy to inform the manager and/or offer a lesser tip.
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Sun, 09-23-2012 - 3:26pm
mappers wrote:

Hijack - who else do you tip? I'm thinking hair dressers, etc. I get a cut and color about every 6 weeks and she was charging me $50.00. I'd add $5.00. Now she is charging me $55.00 and I still give an extra $5.00. But when you are tipping a waiter, you are paying the restaurant for the food and the tip is for the service. In a hair salon, you are paying for the service and maybe a small amount for the product. But you are paying the "owner" if it is a chair-rental type shop, for all of it anyway. So why do we tip them?

What about at a buffet type restaurant where all they do is bring you a drink and clear your plates? Do you tip more or less there?

Do you tip anyone else? Why? and how much?


Good question.  My hair stylist is an independent contractor therefore I do not tip her.  She receives 100% of the fee I pay her to do with as she sees fit and if she wants a tip then she needs to adjust her rates accordingly.  My "tip" to her is my repeat business, the referrals I send her, and my support of her events.  Now if she were an employee in someone elses salon making minimum wage or commission I would happily tip 20%.  I use this same method for massage therapists, estheticians, and nail techs.

I do not tip at buffets because there is no server.  I have to fetch my own plates, food, refills, etc.  Most of the buffets I go to have signs posted saying that they do not accept tips.

I also do not put tips in those tip jars at coffee shops, ice cream parlors, or deli's.  I find those tip jars annoying and they're not walking my order to my table or doing anything else that is exceptional. 

I do not have pizza delivered to my home because the cost of gas is so high here my measly little tip wouldn't cover it.  I pick it up to save them the trouble.  I do the same for other types of things that could be delivered like flowers, other foods, etc.

Bartenders I tip $1-$2 per drink depending on what was ordered and the quality of service.

Hotel maids I still tip even though I don't leave them much to do.  I've never known what the appropriate amount to tip is, but I've usually left $5 per night.  I tip per night because sometimes there are staff changes, so if you leave your tip for a weeks stay on your last night then the maid that worked that night would get all of it, not anyone who cleaned your room earlier in the week.  Some hotels include gratuities in your bill, but be sure to ask them who that actually goes to.  Often the maid is not included in that gratuity.

Taxi drivers, valets, airport shuttle drivers, movers, bellhops, & concierges I've never tipped.  I rarely use these services and have never viewed them as people you should tip.

Mail carriers....it actually drives me crazy to hear of people tipping mail carriers.  I don't see anything wrong with giving them a holiday card or baked good (not sure they'll eat it though lol), but to tip them?!  They're government workers and don't our tax dollars go toward their salary and benefits?  Sure their jobs are challenging, but so are the jobs of sanitation workers and they don't get tipped either.

 

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Mon, 09-24-2012 - 7:36am

who else do you tip? I'm thinking hair dressers, etc. I get a cut and color about every 6 weeks and she was charging me $50.00. I'd add $5.00. Now she is charging me $55.00 and I still give an extra $5.00. But when you are tipping a waiter, you are paying the restaurant for the food and the tip is for the service. In a hair salon, you are paying for the service and maybe a small amount for the product. But you are paying the "owner" if it is a chair-rental type shop, for all of it anyway. So why do we tip them?

This is a good point. My hairdresser and the woman who does my nails, I tip a flat rate. I am not sure why, but partly, it is due the the fact, they charge enough for their service. A waitress makes far less, but now I am wondering, does anyone tip their mechanic or others doing a service for them? Why do we tip some people and not others?

As far as waiters go, they make very little per hour. Part of their pay is passed on the consumer and based on the service they provide. So, to some degree, I tip according to the type of service they gave. It may be less then 20% for poor service or it may be more then 20% for awesome service.

 

 

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Mon, 09-24-2012 - 10:49am

 

mappers wrote:


Do you tip anyone else? Why? and how much?

 

I tip my haircutter --- between $3 and $5 for a $23 cut and dry. She's part-owner but a good cutter.

I tip taxi drivers too...

And at Christmas, I leve a tip for the paper delivery, and as much as allowed ($20 and under) for the postman. Why those people? Well, we are rural, they have to pay for their own cars and gas, they tend to go above and beyond (the postman - woman now -  actually carries things ot the door even though he could just leave them at the box on the street if it is raining, if it is live plant, etc.).

When we lived overseas (Beijing), some apartment complexes handed out lists of approved New Years' tips for various building employees, from concierges to maids! I never quite made all of their suggestions, although we did tip the people we saw and used daily (in Beijing, the desk guards for the building, the maids who did the common areas, and the odd repairman who worked on our flat).

I always leave my spare change and a few bills for hotel maids... and always tip bellboys, room service, etc. Ditto baggage handlers at aiports...

And on cruise ships, they add a "tip" which is supposedly divided among all staff on the final bill but some also allow you to opt out and others provide envelopes which you address to the staff you liked. Oh, and tour bus drivers/guides --- they get a tip slipped to them too, as we depart the bus!

For the longest time, we lived in places where tipping was  frowned upon (I seem to remember that Londoners thought tipping was an insult --- so the Ireland thing rings true to me) or directly forbidden (China - although it was becoming a little more common by the time we left) so maybe we are overcompensating!

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Tue, 09-25-2012 - 4:57am
I own a garage, and a few people do tip the mechanics.
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Tue, 09-25-2012 - 6:34am

Yes, we do too and on occasion we also receive tips or small gifts, but I don't think, in general, it's an accepted practice or the norm. Is it where you live?

 

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Tue, 09-25-2012 - 6:53am
I'd never heard of tipping a mechanic until we opened the garage last year.
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Tue, 09-25-2012 - 7:35am

We've been in business for nearly 15 years and my husband worked in other facilities for, hmmm, over 15 years and it was never standard practice. In larger shops, the customer doesn't even have contact with the mechanic. I was just wondering if it was a generally accepted practice elsewhere because it's not here.

Does everyone tip you?

 

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Tue, 09-25-2012 - 10:39am
When I used to take my car to the car wash it was standard to til the guy who brought yr car back to you. I think the whole detailing crew shared the tips.