Picking the next Pope

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Picking the next Pope
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Sun, 03-10-2013 - 8:46am

I will be glued to my television next week, Lol.....  Do you think Tim Dolan has what it takes to be the next Pope?  Or any other American? 

Thoughts?

 

 

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Fri, 03-15-2013 - 7:31am

Just wanted to add ....

By the way, I am an athesist but have no problems with the concept of a Pope.

I am not sure what this statement means. You seem very involved with this topic so, it's unclear the importance of you being an athiest. Being an athiest and seeing no problem with the concept of a pope?

As I said before .... ah, never mind, I think if I said more it would cause a problem.

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Thu, 03-14-2013 - 6:29pm

Please explain what you mean by more political than spiritual. The chosing of a pope is political but I don't think that's at the expense of spirituality...

The entire concept of the church appears more political then spiritual IMO ... that's just been my experience.

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Thu, 03-14-2013 - 6:26pm

Ignore all the talking heads on CNN and the other networks.

Well, personally, I don't pay a great deal of attention to what the media has to say on the matter. I was responding through my personal feelings based on my experiences with the church.

It was a highly charged spiritual exercise with the Cardinals praying each time they voted that they were making the correct choice

That's good.

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Thu, 03-14-2013 - 2:01pm
For a young Catholic, it must be an incredible experience. The cardinals were like they were on a spiritual high after the conclave.
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Thu, 03-14-2013 - 1:52pm

I had some of CNN on last night, Did you see the kids on there who were interns at the Vatican? What incredible opportunities.... I can't begin to imagine how spiritually charged those meetings were! 

 

 

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Thu, 03-14-2013 - 1:32pm

Ignore all the talking heads on CNN and the other networks. Their constant harping on the issues facing the church and "political" assessements on who would be a good choice over the last weeks does not mean that those issues and discussions were occuring in the conclave. They made his election as more than a political event than a spiritual one; got to talk about something to fill in the dead air.

They talked about reforms required in the Church but the reforms they refer to are not the same reforms the church is talking about.

Hence, all those talking heads were shocked when Francis was selected. It did not fit into their political discussions. Instead, the new Pope is a humble and holy man who will lead by example and will preach holiness Because if you are a holy person, you put the needs of others before yourself. And this man has certainly done that.

One of the Canadian cardinals described how it was like to vote in the Conclave. It was a highly charged spiritual exercise with the Cardinals praying each time they voted that they were making the correct choice, saying that they believed that God would hold them accountable for their selection.

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Thu, 03-14-2013 - 1:01pm

He is the Bishop of Rome; the role that St-Peter held. His political role is limited as the Head of  the tiny state of the Vatican. He also has the role as the final say in the admistration of the Church (selecting cardinals etc..)

However, his most important role is spiritual. He is spiritual heart of the Catholic teacher; the supreme teacher of the church. His role is to protect the dogma of the Church. Every family needs a father. And he is the father of the family of the church.

By the way, I am an athesist but have no problems with the concept of a Pope.

His role is to protect the dogma of the Catholic Church, like your President is sworn to protect your Constitution.

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Thu, 03-14-2013 - 12:58pm

Please explain what you mean by more political than spiritual.  The chosing of a pope is political but I don't think that's at the expense of spirituality...

 

 

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Thu, 03-14-2013 - 9:07am

He's the leader of the Catholic church and his role dates back centuries.. To St.Peter!

Yeah, I understand the church teachings on the subject. Doesn't mean I understand the whole concept of a pope. The whole idea of papal authority? Or the method in which he is chosen just seems more poilitically based then spiritually based. JMO

It is political in the sense that it's an institution of beliefs.

I don't think the definition of political is an institution of beliefs. I was referring more to the process in which he is chosen seems more political then spiritual.

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Thu, 03-14-2013 - 8:29am
He's the leader of the Catholic church and his role dates back centuries.. To St.Peter! It is political in the sense that it's an institution of beliefs.