Picking the next Pope

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Picking the next Pope
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Sun, 03-10-2013 - 8:46am

I will be glued to my television next week, Lol.....  Do you think Tim Dolan has what it takes to be the next Pope?  Or any other American? 

Thoughts?

 

 

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Thu, 03-14-2013 - 1:52pm

I had some of CNN on last night, Did you see the kids on there who were interns at the Vatican? What incredible opportunities.... I can't begin to imagine how spiritually charged those meetings were! 

 

 

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Thu, 03-14-2013 - 2:01pm
For a young Catholic, it must be an incredible experience. The cardinals were like they were on a spiritual high after the conclave.
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Thu, 03-14-2013 - 6:26pm

Ignore all the talking heads on CNN and the other networks.

Well, personally, I don't pay a great deal of attention to what the media has to say on the matter. I was responding through my personal feelings based on my experiences with the church.

It was a highly charged spiritual exercise with the Cardinals praying each time they voted that they were making the correct choice

That's good.

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Thu, 03-14-2013 - 6:29pm

Please explain what you mean by more political than spiritual. The chosing of a pope is political but I don't think that's at the expense of spirituality...

The entire concept of the church appears more political then spiritual IMO ... that's just been my experience.

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Fri, 03-15-2013 - 7:31am

Just wanted to add ....

By the way, I am an athesist but have no problems with the concept of a Pope.

I am not sure what this statement means. You seem very involved with this topic so, it's unclear the importance of you being an athiest. Being an athiest and seeing no problem with the concept of a pope?

As I said before .... ah, never mind, I think if I said more it would cause a problem.

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Fri, 03-15-2013 - 8:30am

What about the selection of the pope is more political than spiritual Ommy.. What are your experiences with the church?

(I do remember an old debate in which you brought up how devout your upbringing was?   I'm not sure if that plays a part here or not... Thanks).

 

 

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Fri, 03-15-2013 - 1:42pm

Being an athesist does not mean that you do not understand WHY people believe in a specific religion.

It does not mean that you are not interested in the cultural and religious ramifications that the various faiths have on this world. You just do not accept those beliefs; there's a big difference. It also does not mean that you do not acknowledge the impact faith can have on human beings. I actually understand why the Catholic Church has taken the stand it has on various issues; understanding does not mean I agree.

Being an athesist also does not mean that you are ignorant of religious beliefs.

Most athesists I know (including myself) are extremely well-read.  I have read the bible, many of the gnostic texts, the Dead Sea Scrolls as well the Koran (well parts of it, it is hard going), the Mormon texts as well as non-religious texts (like those by Dawkins and other athesists).

Of course, I do not have any problems with the Pope or any other leader of a religion. If that leader is actually trying to make this world a better place, if he is trying to adher to the "core" of his religion why should I have a problem with him. He is a human being, like everyone else. I respect him for that, although I do not agree with him.

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Fri, 03-15-2013 - 2:39pm

mom_iteadrinker wrote:
<p>Being an athesist does not mean that you do not understand WHY people believe in a specific religion. </p><p>It does not mean that you are not interested in the cultural and religious ramifications that the various faiths have on this world. You just do not accept those beliefs; there's a big difference. It also does not mean that you do not acknowledge the impact faith can have on human beings. I actually understand why the Catholic Church has taken the stand it has on various issues; understanding does not mean I agree.</p><p>Being an athesist also does not mean that you are ignorant of religious beliefs. </p><p>Most athesists I know (including myself) are extremely well-read.  I have read the bible, many of the gnostic texts, the Dead Sea Scrolls as well the Koran (well parts of it, it is hard going), the Mormon texts as well as non-religious texts (like those by Dawkins and other athesists).</p><p>Of course, I do not have any problems with the Pope or any other leader of a religion. If that leader is actually trying to make this world a better place, if he is trying to adher to the "core" of his religion why should I have a problem with him. He is a human being, like everyone else. I respect him for that, although I do not agree with him.</p>

Well written. 

 

 

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Fri, 03-15-2013 - 4:59pm
Thanks.
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Sat, 03-16-2013 - 8:03am

Sorry Mom, I do not understand your reaction and defense now of atheism. You are the one that brought up the fact you are atheist and still have no problem with the concept of the Catholic Pope .... I was simply asking you what this had to do with anything? Is as if being atheist and still supportive of this religion means something's special.

You keep going any about not having problems with this or that. I am just wondering who said you should have a problem with it? I never even said I had a problem with the Pope. But ... ok.

Sorry, you shared this point, being atheist, as if it should mean something to the discussion and I don't see that as connection. Are you suggesting because you are atheist and support religion, that somehow means something?

Being an athesist also does not mean that you are ignorant of religious beliefs.

Again, who said this? Do you believe this means ignorance?

Most athesists I know (including myself) are extremely well-read. I have read the bible, many of the gnostic texts, the Dead Sea Scrolls as well the Koran (well parts of it, it is hard going), the Mormon texts as well as non-religious texts (like those by Dawkins and other athesists).

That's nice. So, do you think people who are not atheist are not well read?? What is your point? Other people, other non atheists can be well read and have a different opinion.

Of course, I do not have any problems with the Pope or any other leader of a religion.

Who said you should have a problem with the Pope??

If that leader is actually trying to make this world a better place, if he is trying to adher to the "core" of his religion why should I have a problem with him.

Seriously, who said you should have a problem? If you believe this, fine and dandy, no one mentioned having a problem with anything ... other then yourself. I actually just said I don't understand the concept ... and truthfully, I don't.

Oh, when one states they do not agree with something, this does not mean they feel others should have a problem with it.

He is a human being, like everyone else

Exactly, he is a human being, however, many with follow him, put their faith in him, blindly .... that I do not understand, agree with or feel is somehow making the world a better place. JMO