ACORN Accusations

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ACORN Accusations
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Sat, 10-18-2008 - 7:24pm

Chrissy
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Sun, 10-19-2008 - 9:02pm
I have read some of the links, don't have time for every link... but a lot of it is suspect info.
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Sun, 10-19-2008 - 9:05pm

you're missing my point ... he gave 800,00 to an organization who have been investigated MANY times.

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Sun, 10-19-2008 - 9:10pm

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Again, you are misrepresenting the facts. Obama did not give $800,000 to an organization that has "been investigated MANY times." He paid CSI, an organization that has never been accused of any irregularities.


Chrissy
mom to Aidan 8/21/03
Grayson Blaine 12/30/07

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Sun, 10-19-2008 - 9:14pm

ok, so he gave it to a group AFFLIATED with ACORN ... I concede ;-)


and his dishonesty at the debate where he was directly asked about them?

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Sun, 10-19-2008 - 9:28pm

I don't believe Obama was trying to be dishonest about his associations with ACORN. The only information that he left out, whether intentionally or unintentionally, was the 2 one-hour training sessions that he participated in as a volunteer.


Chrissy
mom to Aidan 8/21/03
Grayson Blaine 12/30/07

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Sun, 10-19-2008 - 9:30pm

Yet that is voter fraud if those votes are counted, aren't they?

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Sun, 10-19-2008 - 9:35pm

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Yet that is voter fraud if those votes are counted, aren't they?>>





What votes?


Chrissy
mom to Aidan 8/21/03
Grayson Blaine 12/30/07

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Sun, 10-19-2008 - 9:40pm

the only information that he left out, whether intentionally or unintentionally, was the 2 one-hour training sessions that he participated in as a volunteer.


Not according to factcheck.org


Meanwhile, on the other side of the table, Obama wasn't entirely forthcoming about his relationship with ACORN:


Obama: The only involvement I've had with ACORN is, I represented them alongside the U.S. Justice Department in making Illinois implement a motor voter law that helped people get registered at DMVs.

He did, but that wasn't his only involvement. He also worked closely with ACORN's Chicago office when he ran a Project Vote registration drive after law school, and Obama did some leadership training for Chicago ACORN. The Woods Fund, where Obama served as a board member, gave grants to ACORN's Chicago branch; both organizations are concerned with disadvantaged populations in that city. And during the primaries of this election, Obama's campaign paid upwards of $800,000 to the ACORN-affiliated Campaign Services Inc. for get-out-the-vote efforts (not voter registration). Those services were initially misrepresented on the campaign's Federal Election Commission reports, an error that some find suspicious and others say is par for the course. ACORN's Chicago office and CSI have not been under investigation.


also note this:


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Registered: 10-16-2008
Sun, 10-19-2008 - 9:43pm

More proof of an Obama/Ayers/ACORN connection.

http://www.gettingpaidtowatch.com/2008/09/23/obama-ayers-channeled-annenberg-money-to-acorn-to-advance-leftist-agenda-is-chicago-schools/

http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/obama_and_acorn_more_lies_more_fraud/

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/election/s_584284.html

U.S. Sen. Barack Obama's presidential campaign paid more than $800,000 to an offshoot of the liberal Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now for services the Democrat's campaign says it mistakenly misrepresented in federal reports.

An Obama spokesman said Federal Election Commission reports would be amended to show Citizens Services Inc. -- a subsidiary of ACORN -- worked in "get-out-the-vote" projects, instead of activities such as polling, advance work and staging major events as stated in FEC finance reports filed during the primary.

http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/10/14/mccain-obama-needs-to-explain-acorn-ties/

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122394051071230749.html?mod=special_page_campaign2008_mostpop

Obama and Acorn
Community organizers, phony voters, and your tax dollars.

At the recent Emmy Awards, historian Laura Linney averred that America's Founders had been "community organizers" -- like Barack Obama. Too bad they aren't like that any more. Mr. Obama's kind of organizers work at Acorn, the militant advocacy group that is turning up in reports about voter fraud across the country.

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Sun, 10-19-2008 - 9:46pm

Alongside. Obama has worked alongside ACORN, not directly with them. There is a difference. The involvement that factcheck lists is indirect.


Chrissy
mom to Aidan 8/21/03
Grayson Blaine 12/30/07

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