And here we go.....

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Wed, 09-15-2010 - 6:25pm

This could get interesting. I wonder how long it will take, before Rove is called a RHINO? The GOP seems to be eating their own.



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Thu, 09-16-2010 - 9:37pm

Okay, fair enough, but will you also agree that many conversations here and IRL have been shut down because criticism of this administration has been met with cries of racism? IYO?



I'm sure

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Thu, 09-16-2010 - 4:24pm

See, I thought it was the opposite. I thought it was started by those who were more libertarian in nature, and it appealed to social conservatives as a movement. On the other hand, I wasn't aware of the Tea Party as a movement until tax day 2009, so everything I originally heard about it was related to taxes and government growth/interference in the private sector.



I also read an article about Social Conservatives now wanting to break away from this crowd, noting that they are "materialistic" and "morally ambiguous".



This makes me think, again, that a multi-party system would probably appeal to the majority of voters, but because dollars are concentrated in the two party system, people find themselves bickering over the direction of their party (which are often at odds with eachother).



This is true for democrats too. Enviromental objectives and focuses on infrastructure, affordable housing are often at odds. Those who strongly support small-business are often at odds with those who want to heavily regulate businesses.



I think the challenge for Republicans is that they recognized that they benefitted from a solid, cohesive message. Disagreements were taken "off-line" rather made in public. But when Republicans who wanted to succeed had to throw Bush under the bus, that started to turn.



As a national strategy, Democrat's "big tent" strategy hasn't always paid off. on the other hand, if you embrace the idea of a big tent, you're less likely to end up tearing the tent to shreds when different groups try to claim it as their own. We'll see in the elections where the voters want to go.






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Thu, 09-16-2010 - 3:53pm

Okay, fair enough, but will you also agree that many conversations here and IRL have been shut down because criticism of this administration has been met with cries of racism? IYO?



I've seen it a lot here, even though I mostly lurk lacking the time to reply as much as I would like; although not as much recently. Maybe the people here that are on the left are beginning to understand that Republicans are extremely concerned about the extraordinary growth of government,

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Thu, 09-16-2010 - 3:40pm
I have no idea, but he grew government and we're stuck with it now. I am not a fan of military spending anyway as I think some of it is wasteful especially when we continue to fund weapons programs that military leaders don't even want or think we'll need. The military sucks up a large portion of the federal budget, and I'm glad that we're now looking at the waste and duplication there and planning to eliminate some of it. I have no idea why some people think military spending isn't considered part of government, because it certainly is. There is no excuse, IMHO, for all the private companies (Halliburton, Xe, Parsons, etc.) that our military hires to deliver services at higher cost than our own military can do for lower cost. We need to get away from that type of spending.
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Thu, 09-16-2010 - 3:35pm

"Again, why note Soros and the "far left" if you don't consider the tea party to be the "far right"?"



I do consider Soros to be far left and

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Thu, 09-16-2010 - 3:25pm

I don't have "links" but there have been plenty of comments on this board. Too many to list. Don't have the time. Just something I've noticed with posters on the other side, when they are questioned about their comments. They seem to throw up the old, "there you go again with the

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Thu, 09-16-2010 - 3:19pm





~Oh for pete's sake is this the ignorant racism crap again?~



What are you talking about?









It's their go to line, when they can't defend their arguments.



Is it? I generally provide links to support arguments that I'm making. I will wait for yours to support your statment concerning what "they" do.

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Thu, 09-16-2010 - 2:48pm
I know he spent money on the military, my question for you was where else did he grow the government. What new government agency did he create, what new segment of formally private enterprise did he take over, regulate or seek control of?
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Thu, 09-16-2010 - 2:40pm

"Also, again, do the groups he funds call themselves "grassroots"?"



Not sure, I do know many are not for profit political action groups, but it would be very difficult to follow all the money he uses

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Thu, 09-16-2010 - 2:31pm
:)

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