Are America's Best Days Behind Us?

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Are America's Best Days Behind Us?
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Fri, 03-04-2011 - 11:51am

I started to put this in the Non-Debatable Folder just because I thought it was an interesting article that you might want to read. There are so many debatable points though, so I'm putting it here instead.

Are America's Best Days Behind Us?
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2056610,00.html

A few quotes...

  • The decisions that created today's growth — decisions about education, infrastructure and the like — were made decades ago. What we see today is an American economy that has boomed because of policies and developments of the 1950s and '60s...
  • And all those interests are dedicated to preserving the past rather than investing for the future. There are no lobbying groups for the next generation of industries, only for those companies that are here now with cash to spend. There are no special-interest groups for our children's economic well-being, only for people who get government benefits right now.
  • What is really depressing is the tone of our debate. In place of the thoughtful concern of Jefferson and Adams, we have its opposite in tone and temperament — the shallow triumphalism purveyed by politicians now. The founders loved America, but they also understood that it was a work in progress, an unfinished enterprise that would constantly be in need of change, adjustment and repair.
Tell me what you think of the article and the premise - are the best days indeed behind us?
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Registered: 03-02-2009
Wed, 03-09-2011 - 7:43pm
It was a Republican president who started two wars he didn't intend to pay for.

"Resist, we much. We must, and we much. About that, be committed."

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Registered: 02-28-2008
Wed, 03-09-2011 - 8:54pm

personal attacks and hatred? lol I think you stopped reading because I told the truth. If you had read you would have found out what the president does and that you hardly seem to have a clear understanding of what that is.

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Wed, 03-09-2011 - 9:25pm
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Wed, 03-09-2011 - 9:32pm
No, it's not "opinion" that the last president started two wars that he had no intention of paying for. It's a fact. And that is the point.
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Fri, 03-11-2011 - 7:33pm

No, it's not "opinion" that the last president started two wars that he had no intention of paying for. It's a fact. And that is the point.

I still think it's just an opinion. You have no way of knowing his intentions.

I guess you must be really steamed about Obama running deficits each month that are almost as much as the yearly deficits during the Bush administration then, huh?

"Resist, we much. We must, and we much. About that, be committed."

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Registered: 04-09-2006
Fri, 03-11-2011 - 8:46pm
Okay, I don't know his intentions. I guess he was just so incompetent that he didn't realize that in order to pay for something, arrangements ahve to be paid for the payment.

The current president has continued down the same destructive path: engaging in two wars that can't be paid for. Republicans should be happy: they got a right of center president without having to vote for one, one who would follow his predecessor's policies...and they get to whine about him being liberal and raising taxes when there's a chance that the unsustainable tax cuts of his predecessor might be allowed to expire, at the same time. A win-win situation if ever one existed.
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Fri, 03-11-2011 - 11:08pm

Barack Obama, right of center? Okie, dokie! Now, if you want to call him incompetent and not qualified, he proves that everyday. Right of center? I don't know what planet that holds water on. I'll stay here on Earth.

"Resist, we much. We must, and we much. About that, be committed."

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Registered: 04-09-2006
Sat, 03-12-2011 - 12:18pm
The left of center has made it clear that we shouldn't be engaging in wars we can't pay for. The current president apparently still believes that if he compromises, the right will also. So I guess in that context: assuming that the right is reasonable, he is left of center. But he is clearly out of touch with the left of center, the part that thinks that military actions ought to have a point, that the existence of terrorism is no reason to conduct an all out war on citizen's civil rights, etc. So, yeah...overall he's right of center. On this planet, here and now.
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Registered: 03-02-2009
Sat, 03-12-2011 - 7:52pm

Well, to me, he makes no compromises, at least in his actions. He is nowhere near center, he is as far left a president as we've ever had. Just because he got into office and realized that pulling out of Iraq and Afghanistan would be an absolute disaster doesn't make him anywhere near center.

He found out the same thing about Gitmo, it would be utterly stupid to close it.

The left of center has made it clear that we shouldn't be engaging in wars we can't pay for.

I'm not sure what you mean. You mean they won't support a war

"Resist, we much. We must, and we much. About that, be committed."

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Registered: 04-09-2006
Sat, 03-12-2011 - 11:06pm
Not all liberals are as spendthrift as quite a few on the right seem to be.

Both wars have been total unmitigated disasters from the beginning. They will remain so whether we remain there or not. They've basically bankrupted our country.