AZ Sheriff on white nationalist program

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AZ Sheriff on white nationalist program
Mon, 07-19-2010 - 5:58pm

On my way out, but I'm interested in this in terms of where the line should be (or even if there should be a line) in terms of which forms/stances re: media officials use to get their message out:

AZ Sheriff Babeu appears on a white nationalist program, invites listeners to join his "posse"

July 19, 2010 3:07 pm ET by Eric Hananoki

On July 10, Arizona Republican Sheriff and frequent Fox News guest Paul Babeu appeared on the openly "pro-white" Political Cesspool radio program to defend the Arizona immigration law and criticize President Obama for undermining the "rule of law and intentionally undermining law enforcement." During the program, Babeu invited the show down to Arizona, and told listeners of the white nationalist program that they can apply for his department's "posse" program.

The Political Cesspool website states: "We represent a philosophy that is pro-White. ... We wish to revive the White birthrate above replacement level fertility and beyond to grow the percentage of Whites in the world relative to other races."

The Anti-Defamation League states that Political Cesspool regularly gives voices to "anti-Semites, white supremacists, and other right-wing extremists." The Southern Poverty Law Center writes that the Political Cesspool is a "shamelessly white nationalist radio talk show" and host James Edwards "has probably done more than any of his contemporaries on the American radical right to publicly promote neo-Nazis, Holocaust deniers, raging anti-Semites and other extremists." Political Cesspool has been streamed by, which describes itself as a "community of White Nationalists."

SPLC notes that the Political Cesspool's guest roster reads like a "Who's Who" of radical racists. The show has hosted "neo-Nazis," white supremacists and former Klan leaders such as "white supremacist" Sam Dickson; "white supremacist" Paul Fromm; former Klan leader David Duke; and "neo-Nazi activist April Gaede."

During the program, Political Cesspool co-host Eddie Miller asked (1:40 min. into the second segment) Babeu how they could help him. Babeu responded that Miller is a "great American," and that the country is "sprinting down the path to socialism." Babeu added that he'd be "honored" to welcome the show to Pinal County "so you could tell all of your listeners that -- truly, first hand, what's going on." Babeu also promised to connect Miller with one of his deputies on patrol.

Babeu got some fundraising in, stating (7:30) that if "people go to ... if people chose, if they have 5, 10, 20 bucks and they want to lend help ... we'd love to have their support." Miller told Babeu that he hopes his listeners will respond. At the conclusion of the interview, Edwards told Babeu that he'll help drum up support for him within his "sphere of influence."

In a July 16 blog post touting Babeu's appearance, Edwards wrote: "We should stand with those who stand with us and fight to put America First by securing our borders against all odds. Visit Sheriff Paul's website and let him know you appreciate him sticking his neck out to protect the citizens of this country."

Miller also asked Babeu what listeners could do if they wanted to volunteer to be a deputy for Babeu. He replied by stating that they can help by applying to join a "posse" program.

It's not clear whether Babeu knew about the white nationalist orientation of the program when he appeared, though the "pro-white" message of the show is clear from visiting the program's website and a quick Google search. As Media Matters noted, Babeu is a frequent guest on cable news programs. Babeu currently appears in television ads for Sen. John McCain's reelection campaign.

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xo Kate

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Mon, 07-19-2010 - 6:15pm

I had to chuckle immediately in the first few lines.. "and frequent Fox News guest"

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Mon, 07-19-2010 - 6:17pm least he's not hiding "where he's coming from" and is somewhat straight forward as to his motivations and intentions. Say what you will about groups like the KKK, but at least they're honest about their sentiments. Politicians who feel the need to lie about (for example) the crime rate in order to trump up support for the Arizona immigration law are more seedy, IMHO. Heck, I almost wonder if Arizona's sudden concern about crime in their state (which is the lowest in years) in order to grandstand about their toughness on immigration, might just be trying to create a contentious issue to affect this year's elections not only for Arizona, but for the country as a whole.


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Mon, 07-19-2010 - 6:42pm

When you said Arizona's crime rate is down, I had to check into that because all indications are that it's horrible, right? So I saw several news sites state exactly what you said.

In 1980, 279 people were murdered.

In 1990, 284 were murdered

2000= 400, dropped a little in 2002, spiked back up the following year 468 people in 2007 but in 2008, it dropped to 407.

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Mon, 07-19-2010 - 9:35pm



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Mon, 07-19-2010 - 10:34pm

This is all I have to say:

"THEY CAME FIRST for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

THEN THEY CAME for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

THEN THEY CAME for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

and by that time no one was left to speak up."

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Wed, 07-21-2010 - 1:35am


Oh, and:

Host says Sheriff Babeu knew of program's 'pro-White' beliefs

Arizona Daily Star
July 20, 2010

Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu knew what kind of radio program he was going on when he appeared on a “pro-White” show July 10, the host alleged today.

James Edwards, who hosted the interview along with Eddie Miller, said Miller spoke with Babeu and his spokesman multiple times before the interview.

“For Sheriff Babeu to change his mind and now regret coming on our show, for whatever reason, is his right. For him to act as though he had no idea of our ideology is a lie,” Edwards said in a written statement on the show’s website.

Edwards described that ideology as “paleoconservative” and described himself as a “pro-White” Christian.

But Babeu’s spokesman, Tim Gaffney, said Tuesday afternoon “It was never divulged what their beliefs are.”

“They never had a conversation with me and made anything clear to me at all about their white-supremacist beliefs or anything of that nature,” Gaffney said.

Babeu’s appearance on the show came to broad attention Monday, when Media Matters, a left-leaning website that analyzes news coverage, published a story on it.

On Monday night, Gaffney apologized for having booked the appearance, one of dozens of interviews the sheriff has done since gaining fame as a border-security hardliner in April.

Babeu was interviewed by Miller and Edwards July 10 from Millington, Tenn.-based station WLRM.
Gaffney, who became the sheriff’s office spokesman in late June, said in a statement that he had vetted the radio station’s website but not that of The Political Cesspool. That website declares “We represent a philosophy that is pro-White.”

It goes on: “We wish to revive the White birthrate above replacement level fertility and beyond to grow the percentage of Whites in the world relative to other races.”

Gaffney described the interview as a mistake.

“During the past month, I have been inundated with media requests from local, national and international outlets to have Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu interviewed because of his outspoken need to secure our border,” Gaffney wrote Monday night.

“I have weeded out most all requests from any outlets or groups that have any connection with possible hate groups. Unfortunately, last week it appears that I may have let one such interview take place.”

He cited a scheduled interview with Tucson-based Internet-radio host Clay Douglas as an example of an interview that he canceled because of the host’s apparent ideology.

Babeu knew nothing about the Political Cesspool show until he appeared on it July 10, Gaffney said in his statement. The interview itself focused on much of the same material — border security and SB 1070 — that Babeu has discussed in dozens of interviews since he rose to national prominence in April.

However, Edwards’ statement offers a different version of events:

“Eddie Miller spoke with the Sheriff personally, a week in advance of the interview, during which it was made specifically clear (so there could be no 'confusion') the nature of our paleoconservative radio program (which was mentioned several times by name) and some of the attacks we’ve sustained from hate groups like the ADL and SPLC .”

As the hosts conversed during the July 10 show, waiting for Babeu to call in, co-host Miller said: “Of all the people we’ve interviewed on this radio show, I would say the only people that came close to getting me this excited was Dr. David Duke.”

David Duke is a former Ku Klux Klan leader who ran for U.S. Senate in Louisiana in 1996.

Gaffney, a medically retired Mesa police officer, took over as the department’s spokesman from Lt. Tamatha Villar at the end of June.

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Wed, 07-21-2010 - 1:43am

On July 8th he was a guest on The Alex Jones Show (aka conspiracy central).

When asked if Obama had committed high treason the Sheriff said:

"It borderlines that. I'm not going to outright call it that. You know, he's still -- I'm still an officer in the Army, and as a sheriff, I'm hoping that we have a correction here this year", etc., and claimed that Obama was " very diabolical in his planning and plotting".

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Wed, 07-21-2010 - 7:34am
Arpaio has always been a loose cannon. He must think that the current white/nativist popularity is a go-ahead to be even more aggressive in enforcing HIS version of the laws. After all, the nation's "toughest sheriff" has a reputation (gaaaaaack!) to uphold.


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Wed, 07-21-2010 - 9:12am

Sounds like he's one o' them "constitutional sheriffs" I've heerd tell about.