Calif appeals same-sex marriage ban

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Calif appeals same-sex marriage ban
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Tue, 02-07-2012 - 1:10pm

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Registered: 03-03-2009
Wed, 02-08-2012 - 11:25am

My point is that we already have a mechanism for identifying those who are citizens.

Jabberwocka

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Registered: 04-09-2011
Wed, 02-08-2012 - 9:31am

Agreed. Once here, we tend to shed our connection to immigration over time. When people call for English to be the official language, they forget English was not spoken here, and that of European languages, Spanish came first.

We need protections for human rights, no matter what the heck the majority thinks or wishes to do. We see a lot of claims now on a war on religion, but if we gave people uninhibited freedom to act here, Christianity would impose itself on everyone, it would try and snuff out every other belief.

Protecting the few from the many is one of the most important elements of our form of governance.

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Registered: 10-11-2005
Tue, 02-07-2012 - 11:07pm
@jabber, I only got my 1st passport a couple of yrs ago. Not everyone doesn't have a need for the passport (& yes I've traveled to both Canada & Mexico before you needed passport)
~~Sam stitches well with others, runs with scissors in her pocket. Cheerful and stupid.
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Registered: 03-03-2009
Tue, 02-07-2012 - 9:56pm
" Tyranny of the many". Yes, exactly. Democracy is supposed to feature majority rule but minority rights. That message doesn't get stressed near as much as ought to be the case.

Here in New Mexico, people are fuming about drivers licenses for illegal immigrants. They have totally lost sight of the fact that the purpose of a license is to show competency in driving a vehicle. Instead they fixate on a license's role as ID. We should separate the two. Have a photo ID for citizens if you wish (oh wait, we already have such a document called a passport), and quit trying to marginalize people who want to be able to drive because they're "illegal". 'Course the bigots who fear people of a different ethnicity will probably flock to another standard but maybe over time those standards will be reduced in number.

Jabberwocka

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Registered: 10-11-2005
Tue, 02-07-2012 - 6:42pm
WOO HOO! Now tomorrow WA state senten votes on it here!
~~Sam stitches well with others, runs with scissors in her pocket. Cheerful and stupid.
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Registered: 02-28-2008
Tue, 02-07-2012 - 6:35pm

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Hmmm do you?

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Registered: 04-09-2011
Tue, 02-07-2012 - 3:41pm

This is where the importance of the Constitution comes in, protecting the few from the tyranny of the many.

There is a danger if those who oppose take this to the Supremes... they could end up flipping the on switch across the country.

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Registered: 01-09-2012
Tue, 02-07-2012 - 3:09pm
nellewrites wrote:

Constitutional questions won't be resolved before the fact, much as I'd like to have marriage to continue unabated.

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Registered: 04-09-2011
Tue, 02-07-2012 - 2:31pm

Constitutional questions won't be resolved before the fact, much as I'd like to have marriage to continue unabated.

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Registered: 05-03-2011
Tue, 02-07-2012 - 1:31pm
Propositions that would violate a specific group's constitutional rights should never be allowed on a ballot.

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