CBS Poll/Bad News 4 Obama and Democrats

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CBS Poll/Bad News 4 Obama and Democrats
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Wed, 07-14-2010 - 9:49am

      â€œYou have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself in any direction you choose."


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Registered: 12-25-2008
Wed, 07-14-2010 - 1:20pm

Anyone who thought Obama could come into office and quickly

 


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Registered: 03-10-2010
Wed, 07-14-2010 - 1:24pm
I couldn't say it better!

 

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Registered: 11-27-2009
Wed, 07-14-2010 - 5:47pm

I hate to say this, but then Obama was a fool. He campaigned on his fix for the economy and made promises he didn't/couldn't keep.
Guess if it's the economy that is bringing down his numbers (I read an article claiming it's not http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/07/13/its_not_just_the_economy_stupd_106290.html)he's reaping what he sowed.
Shouldn't make claims of your abilities that you don't actually possess.

For fun, Here's what looks to be a rebuttal to the above article (didn't read it yet)
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/07/it-is-too-economy.html

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Registered: 03-03-2009
Wed, 07-14-2010 - 9:01pm

For the bulk of the time when Obama was campaigning, his focus was on issues other than the economy. Drawing down the troops in Iraq. Finding a "cure" for the nation's health care woes. The economy angle didn't really get traction until late summer of 2008. And it didn't take much for Obama to appear "golden" because McCain was so clueless by comparison.
"The most damaging gaffe came Sept. 15, when McCain said "the fundamentals of our economy are strong," which was a hard sell because it occurred on the same day that venerable firms Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch were collapsing.
While that statement is likely to haunt McCain through the rest of the campaign, he went on to make several other slips in the following days.
On Thursday, the Arizona senator said he would "fire" Securities and Exchange Commission chairman Chris Cox. However, while the president nominates and the Senate confirms the SEC chair, a commissioner of an independent regulatory commission cannot be removed by the president."
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=5842629&page=1

As far as Obama reaping what he sowed, that's an absolutely incredible claim. The "sowing" was done by Obama's predecessor. Your second link acknowledges as much, though in verrrrry under-stated way: "In October 2008, the Bush administration (with significant support from Democrats in Congress) passed a roughly $800 billion bailout bill, which it pitched as being necessary to avert a near-term economic catastrophe." Please note. "October 2008." "Economic catastrophe." Once again. "October 2008." "Economic catastrophe." Obama was elected in November, didn't take office until January 2009 and immediately had to go into damage control mode--after the economy had already gone into a tailspin.




Edited 7/14/2010 9:10 pm ET by jabberwocka

Jabberwocka

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Thu, 07-15-2010 - 2:24am

So very predictable.

 

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Thu, 07-15-2010 - 6:36am
Sorry, but in this context McCain is an appropriate part of the discussion since the choice was between the two. If you think Obama has done such a bad job on the economy or could have/should have done more then it is appropriate to point out that during the election McCain said "the fundamentals of our economy are strong,"on the same day that Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch were collapsing. It seemed, at that time, that McCain was clueless as to what was going on with the economy and caused some people to feel he was not a good choice for that reason. That is not 'shifting blame' but pointing out what the choices were. Given that his running mate quit her job as governor when the going got tough in her state it is also perhaps fair to wonder how she would have handled the job as VP during this time in our nations history. So it comes down to which ticket would have worked out better for the country - McCain and quitter Palin or Obama/Biden. I am comfortable with my decision.


Edited 7/15/2010 6:44 am ET by justjane2009
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Thu, 07-15-2010 - 7:38am
I am not terribly surprised. Clearly the situation is dire, and at the same time, the new administration came into office with enormous expectations placed on it. I do get the impression that the Obama administration will prove ineffective in many ways, OTOH, on several issues I am rather hard pressed to imagine any administration being able to be convincingly effective in the face of such massive problems.

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Registered: 03-03-2009
Thu, 07-15-2010 - 11:14am

Could it be that the reason "blaming" Obama's predecessor is so "very predictable" is due to the fact that Bush was so incredibly awful? That he squandered our "superpower" capital in a needless war of aggression? That he didn't pay for that war by actually asking the people of the U.S. to pay its tab; but instead CUT taxes on the highest brackets (of which, BTW, I am a member)? That he and his sinister VP put together an "energy policy" under which gas prices rose to almost $4 a gallon?

When Obama took office, the whole nation was in disarray AS A DIRECT FUNCTION of the Bush regime (unitary presidency, remember?). I thought conservatives were big on accountability. Apparently, the concept is in abeyance when it comes to THEM being held responsible for their actions.

I have said this before and will say it again. The old bromide that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure was certainly applicable to BushCo. They were very big on "doing something", even when that "something" was the wrong thing to do. Now we're looking at the effort and tab for curing all the terrible things they "did".

Jabberwocka

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Registered: 03-03-2009
Thu, 07-15-2010 - 11:21am

I had not thought about Palin's actions in the light of Alaska's need for leadership during a time of economic upheaval. Given her propensity for being self-serving and not particularly coherent, figured the state was well-rid of her.

But she DID quit when the going got tough for her personally. Some "leader". There was an interesting piece in the most recent Newsweek on the current incarnation of John McCain: http://www.newsweekinteractive.com/2010/07/11/mccain-s-burden.html?from=rss

Jabberwocka

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Thu, 07-15-2010 - 4:40pm

Nothing you said changes the fact that Obama also campaigned on fixing the economy. He's been doing nothing but blaming Bush and making promises he couldn't fulfill. If anyone believed that Obama could fix the economy, yes they were a fool and the other poster said, and Obama is the leader of that pack.

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