Debunking "liberals don't think"

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Debunking "liberals don't think"
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Fri, 10-17-2008 - 1:37pm

I have often read the phrase "those liberals don't think, they only feel." Accompanying this phrase is often the analogy of Obama supporters as sheep who are so blinded by the light of Obama's celebrity that they fail to consider the issues carefully or logically.

First, I wanted to say that most liberals I know DO feel. They are very empathetic, compassionate people who do want to ease suffering in the world. I think that most conservatives are the same way. But liberals are not stupid. In fact, if you look at the data, higher levels of education are correlated with more liberal attitudes, although once you get into people with graduate degrees, the correlation flattens. The faculty at more prestigious universities also tend to be more liberal than the faculty at less prestigious universities. This is not to say that there are not highly intelligent people who are also conservative. My point is simply that saying liberals "don't think, they only feel" is simply a false explanation for disagreement.

Can't we all agree that two intelligent people considering the exact same information might come to different conclusions? Can't we all agree that two intelligent people carefully and logically considering the issues might still choose to vote for different presidential candidates? If we want to get over the polarization in our society, we need to stop thinking of people who disagree as being idiots.



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Registered: 09-15-2008
Sat, 10-18-2008 - 7:50pm
i dont care what you say. but this is a debate board. so i do expect you to back up your accusations. i'm still waiting.
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Sat, 10-18-2008 - 8:25pm

"Why is it every liberal has the propensity of splitting hairs in an effort to deflect from the original subject matter? "

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Sat, 10-18-2008 - 8:47pm

You're splitting hairs again. Stop splitting hairs. What Hollywood elitists support John McCain? Certainly not Barbara Striesand or George Clooney! They didn't hold a 28 million dollar fund raiser for Mccain, did they? They sure held one for Obama.

http://www.americanprogressaction.org/issues/2008/mccain_gw_record.html>

And since BOTH take contributions from BIG OIL, what gives Obama the right to point out that McCain takes contributions from BIG OIL when Obama takes them himself? Obama should pull the board out of his own eye before trying to remove the speck from McCain's eye. Don't you agree?

Yes, I have. I took the time to download it in PDF form. Have you read it?

In your book, that would make quite a few Democrats unworthy of holding any office. Obama certainly did hire 30 people that he sent to Wasilla to investigate her. That is a well known fact. Obama paid this person doing the investigation to fast track it so his findings could come out before the election. If abuse of power, as you say, is wrongdoing, then why did the report contradict itself by saying there was no wrongdoing?

look at his plan for America. It's an elitist agenda.

what do you think tax and spend liberals are? They are Socialists.

Obama still has yet to disclose the truth about Ayers. It has also been rumored that Ayers wrote Obama's first book, "Dreams from my Fathers."

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/who_wrote_dreams_from_my_fathe_1.html

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/evidence_mounts_ayers_cowrote.html

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OTlkMTdmNDRkMTM1ODZkNGNkZmRiNDFjMDE4YzRjMjg=

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2108429/posts

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/jamestown-tn/TQ2HAU3DQA1C4PP92

http://www.theminorityreportblog.com/hinzsight_story/david_hinz/2008/10/09/did_william_ayers_write_barack_obama_s_first_memoir

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/16/222437/67

The mounting evidence suggests that Ayers and Obama had a close relationship that Obama keeps denying. You don't write books with someone you hardly know. You don't launch a campaign for president from the house of someone you hardly know. Obama has not been totally honest about his relationship with Ayers.

(referring to Biden being out of touch)

When someone suggests its patriotic to pay taxes, just for the sake of being able to raise taxes on them, that's out of touch and elitist.

Our forefathers didn't envision it like that. But I'm glad to see you admit Obama is an elitist. Who knows better what the American people need than someone who is an every day person? You've admitted Obama isn't an every day person. You want BIG GOVERNMENT to take care of all of us. BIG GOVERNMENT creates more problems than it solves. But that's for another time.

Contrary to popular belief, Obama has not been vetted. He's been given a free pass. If he wins, he will be POTUS. He has shown he has bad judgment, can't be trusted to tell the truth, and he has no executive or leadership experience. Palin has more experience than Obama or Biden do.

Oh really? He was calling people who live in small towns out of touch. That's what he was saying. He was also saying they are stupid and bitter for clinging to their guns and Bibles for comfort. He also called them racists. Racism is what he was alluding to when he said about anti-immigrant sentiment. And who are the people that live in small towns? White people. So basically Barack was calling all white people who live in small towns bitter racists

Those comments were totally racist on Obama's part.

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Sat, 10-18-2008 - 10:56pm

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I think this was the answer, lol!:

Seriously, I haven't seen a definition of "elitist" either. Based on context, I'd say it means some combination of "intelligent person" and "educated person".

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Sat, 10-18-2008 - 11:21pm

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-http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/473ldzno.asp?pg=1 in this article you will find a list of celebrities who attended a FUNDRAISER for mccain. i guess that makes him an elitist too.


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-because obama isnt going to give them takes cuts, maybe?


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-unfortunately i dont think it makes them unworthy. a politician is a politician. they will abuse their power. but i just think it is unfair for you to criticize obama for taking big oil money, yet palin, who is supposed to be this washington outsider, abused her power and it doesnt bother you in the least. talk about specs and boards. and obama's people certainly did not conduct the investigation. did he send some of his people there? maybe. mccain sent some of his people there too but they did not conduct the investigation. youll notice in this article that called for the investigation the date is july 28, well before she was named vp http://www.ktva.com/ci_10026165

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Sat, 10-18-2008 - 11:26pm
lol yep! i've never used the ignore feature, but i am getting awfully close!
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Sun, 10-19-2008 - 12:14am

Thank you for this post, Bridgette. I totally agree! I'm tired of all the sweeping generalizations and I don't buy into them since my own personal experience shows that there are passionate and intellectual people on both sides of the fence.


Can't we all agree that two intelligent people considering the exact same information might come to different conclusions? Can't we all agree that two intelligent people carefully and logically considering the issues might still choose to vote for different presidential candidates? If we want to get over the polarization in our society, we need to stop thinking of people who disagree as being idiots.


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Sun, 10-19-2008 - 1:15am

~You're attempting to convolute everything, so there is no sense in even having a dialog with you. You know exactly who the Hollywood elitists are. You're just trying to make a mockery out of it.~


No, I was trying to engage with you in respectful debate.

 

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Registered: 10-07-2003
Sun, 10-19-2008 - 2:00am

Great post! I agree that Obama has some issues relating to judgement that need to be looked at.

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Registered: 10-07-2003
Sun, 10-19-2008 - 2:13am

>It seems like this entire message board, not just me, is made up of sweeping generalizations.<


Hey! I resemble that remark! You may want to consider "watching your tone"!

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