Do you shop your conscience?

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Do you shop your conscience?
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Thu, 11-04-2004 - 7:14pm
I figure this question might be interesting to pose to you ladies, since it IS somewhat political...

Do you put your money where your mouth is when you're spending your money, or has it just not really crossed your mind? I'm assuming we're all at least slightly against human right violations and unethical marketplace practices; if not, I guess this question won't apply.

The discussion about Walmart got me wondering about this. Are you (like all of us) looking for the best price? Or do you consider things like sweatshops, labor practices, manufacturer gouging, whatever, too?



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Thu, 11-04-2004 - 7:23pm

Interesting question!


 


Mich

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Thu, 11-04-2004 - 7:27pm
I've got a Toyota Prius - you gotta do this! Hybrid is AWESOME!

So I'm still new at all this - tell me who else I should be not patronizing (oh, and if you want info on human rights violations, questionable labor practices, etc about Walmart, let me know, I've got all sorts of stuff on them! LOL)



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If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.
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Thu, 11-04-2004 - 7:32pm
That's the car I'm wanting!


 


Mich

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Thu, 11-04-2004 - 7:36pm
Great question.

Carrie, Mom of Alex & Anna

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Thu, 11-04-2004 - 7:41pm
Dh and I are constantly battling, lol, about the mileage - we've got that computer screen in the dash, so you can see at any given moment what you're doing gas-wise. I confess, I do drive a bit like a cabbie, so of course he has to totally dog me for reducing mileage. Whatever! When I drive, I get between 44-47 mpg. He gets 49-52. But yeah, I too am diggin' the emissions - in fact I joke that no one can sit in a closed garage & commit suicide from my emissions - so it's a pro-life car. LOL.

You know, Walmart is so bad, the health care issue isn't even a blip on my radar! I'd refuse to shop there even if their healthcare plan was phenomenal.

Here's a sample of what I've learned about them.

Wal-Mart Gets an 'F'; New Retailer Scorecard Grades Companies on Sweatshop Practices

6/1/2004

WASHINGTON, June 1 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Co-op America, a national consumer education nonprofit organization, has issued a Retailer Scorecard on labor standards and practices for eight large US retailers, Wal-Mart, got the only 'F' due to its documented business transactions with sweatshop factories in Central America and South East Asia. JC Penny, Target, and Sears got 'D's, while Target got a 'D plus' and Federated (including: Bloomingdale's and Macy's) and May's (including: David's Bridal and Hecht's) received 'C's. (Scorecard located at http://www.sweatshops.org.)

"The Retailer Scorecard gives consumers a summary of how companies rate when it comes to labor standards," says Alisa Gravitz, Co-op America Executive Director. "The eight large companies all rated average or below because of the sweatshop practices of their suppliers. Businesses don't have to use sweatshop labor to stay competitive, over 80 percent of consumers say they would pay more for products made under 'good' conditions."

Wal-Mart, according to the Los Angeles Times and Fast Company, forces its suppliers to continually lower prices, and to survive, the suppliers often move their US operation overseas. Workers at Wal-Mart supply factories in Bangladesh and China say that Wal- Mart's push to lower prices drives factory owners to engage in labor law violations, which are easily concealed from auditors.

Wal-Mart suppliers' labor abuses include:

-- Tarrant Apparel Group, in Mexico, where 500 employees were fired for trying to unionize.

-- Confecciones Ninos, in El Salvador, where workers were denied overtime wages, drinking water, bathroom visits, and sick days. (note)

-- Wins Facilities, in San Francisco, California, where 200 garment workers were owed almost $1 million in unpaid wages. (note)

-- Daewoosa, in American Samoa, was convicted in 2003 of human trafficking for illegally confining workers in "involuntary servitude," holding their passports, and threatening deportation for any acts of non-compliance. (note)

"Consumers concerned about the use of sweatshop labor in products they buy can turn to alternatives," claims Pauline Tiffen, managing director of the Fair Trade Federation. "Co-op America's Consumer Guide to Ending Sweatshops is a great resource for consumers looking to avoid sweatshops and support socially and environmentally conscience businesses."

Note: (Sources: Sweatshop Watch, Orange County Weekly, Women's Wear Daily, Human Rights Watch, The Economist, San Francisco Chronicle, DOL, Manchester Guardian Weekly, Washington Post)

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Wal-Mart Removed From Domini 400; `Sweatshop Conditions' Cited

By Philana Patterson

Boston, May 17 (Bloomberg) -- Wal-Mart Stores Inc., the world's biggest retailer, was removed from KLD & Co.'s Domini 400 Social Index because of what it called ``sweatshop conditions'' at its overseas vendors' factories.

KLD, which provides social research for institutional investors, said Wal-Mart hasn't done enough to ensure that its vendors meet ``adequate labor and human rights standards,'' according to a statement distributed by PR Newswire. The Domini 400 is a benchmark index for measuring the effect of social screening on financial performance.

As of Jan. 31, Wal-Mart was the third-largest holding in the Domini 400 and accounted for 3.9 percent of the index's weight.

A Wal-Mart spokesman wasn't immediately available for comment.

(http://www.kld.com/benchmarks/bloomberg/)

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Taken from NPR:

Weekend Edition - Saturday, December 27, 2003 · Wal-Mart's unmatched low prices place severe demands on the discount chain's suppliers, according to a magazine report. A demand to cut prices 5 percent every year has forced some suppliers into bankruptcy and prompted others to shut down American factories for cheaper labor abroad.

Morning Edition, October 24, 2003 · Federal immigration agents are investigating Wal-Mart for possible collusion in a scheme to hire illegal immigrants. Authorities arrested as many as 300 illegal workers Thursday at stores across the country.

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Info about how Walmart is messing up our economy - from cutting profits of big companies (not so bad, but they're gouging) to real jobs lost mills right here in the US of A:

http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/77/walmart.html

http://www.latimes.com/news/custom/showcase/la-walmart-sg.gallery



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If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.
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Thu, 11-04-2004 - 8:44pm

Honda are American made.

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Thu, 11-04-2004 - 8:46pm

Wow......I didn't know ANY of that stuff.


 


Mich

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Thu, 11-04-2004 - 9:16pm
Why yes I do, I don't shop in non-union stores (I'm a union school bus driver), right now the United Methodist Church has called for a boycott of Taco Bell due to them not paying their tomato pickers better, I haven't had any Taco Bell in MONTHS. And it's killing me
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Thu, 11-04-2004 - 9:55pm

Oh man, I'm going to regret reading all the posts in this thread------NOT Taco Bell?????


 


Mich

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Thu, 11-04-2004 - 10:13pm
Do I? Yes, to a certain degree. Right now, I have to watch every penny, so getting the lowest price on groceries is all that matters. However, I will have a much larger income in a year that will afford me the leverage to shop my conscience...well, that and Bush's nice tax cuts :-) . I'd say, currently, I "watch my conscience" more. I'm turned off by stars like Hugh Grant, Rob Lowe, Drew Barrymore, Robert Downey Jr. and that Chandler guy from Friends who've been doing drugs, or are caught with hookers and underaged girls, then they "come clean" on some talk show and all is well. Sorry bub. I don't watch things with them in it. People AND businesses are only as bad as we let 'em be.


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