Free preventive care

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Free preventive care
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Thu, 07-15-2010 - 10:14am

Woohooo it's free, no one pays, WRONG!


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Thu, 07-15-2010 - 10:50am
I think people fail to realize that Healthy people PAY FOR SICK
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Registered: 03-10-2010
Thu, 07-15-2010 - 11:19am

And...the term "free" shouldn't have been used. From the article posted in the OP, it appears that Michelle Obama did not use the word, "free". Instead, it appears that she used the phrase, "would come without a deductible, co-pay or coinsurance," which is more exacting. Whether the author of the article in the OP used "free" for a purpose other than riling those who would grab onto the word "free" is another matter altogether. Suffice to say, opponents of HCR might have a reaction to the word "free" that others may not.

Oh...and btw...you are correct about the fact that healthy people pay for the sick people. That is the nature of "insurance" - spreading risk. Now, if there is some way to reduce the risk of paying out high medical bills via the use of preventive screening, then I'm all for it. Not only would it be good for our pocketbooks, but it might be good for our fellow human beings.

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Registered: 08-16-2005
Thu, 07-15-2010 - 12:44pm

CBO didn't indicate that this bill would cut costs and that was with this preventive care coverage.


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Registered: 03-10-2010
Thu, 07-15-2010 - 1:00pm
Use of the word "free" is a real problem, because we have to pay premiums - nothing free about that. Michelle Obama was smart in outlining exactly what was meant by coverage for preventive care and/or testing that would not require a deductible, copayment, or coinsurance. Nothing about health care is free, and most people know that.

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Registered: 07-13-2010
Thu, 07-15-2010 - 7:12pm

This is simply another tax on the middle class Barry promised not to do, but we all knew he was going to do anyway.


It's amazing the lengths the democratic party goes to hide the cost of their actions. Working people will spend hundreds of $s a month more to cover the cost of others, but liberals will walk around claiming America has a low tax policy since socialized programs like this do not pass through government coffers.


When you include unfunded mandates America has one of the highest tax policies in the world. That's why businesses flee from it so much.


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Registered: 07-15-2010
Thu, 07-15-2010 - 8:49pm

But for many many many people by all accounts it will be free. I really don't see them stopping to think much about who is paying for it or that the costs they pay for other things.....their rent, groceries, etc....are higher now because of this. They don't realize that while they feel they're getting something for "free" that they do pay by higher prices, lower wages, fewer jobs.

I think if they had a better concept of how it works and how this "free" is really serving to hurt them without them even knowing it--we'd all be better off. But people really don't think that way.

When something is viewed as "free" people tend to take/use it very "freely". Much more freely than if they were paying for it directly because when they do that they "feel" it. It's hard to feel the repercussion as they are too abstract.

I realize "you" understand the concept but would disagree that the average person receiving so-called "free" services stops to ponder it at all.

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Thu, 07-15-2010 - 9:00pm
I guess the question should be then, do we use the wording of Michelle Obama or of those who call it "free"? Perhaps we should be very clear that money is going to change hands at some point when someone receives preventive care and testing. Most likely the costs will come up-front in the form of premiums. Let's be sure that everyone knows that. But, let's let policy holders know that they should get preventive care and testing because they don't have to worry about copays, deductibles, and coinsurance as that is part of what their premiums cover.

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Fri, 07-16-2010 - 4:56am

That's interesting because I have never seen an Obama supporter on the news "just so excited about free healthcare".

I have seen posts on a type 1 diabetes support forum about kids who are getting cut off their state's medical programs for the under insured, sending their online friends scrambling for supplies and insulin until the situation can be resolved. Type 1 cannot be prevented, can occur without a family history, and can be fatal in a few hours without treatment. Also, those with type 1 do who not get insurance through a large employer have been, up to now, ineligible for insurance. And the explosion in medical care costs can bankrupt an ordinary family with a kid's Type 1 diagnosis. So I do not know where these "free healthcare" folks are, but I do know that we have been living in a country where children can die for lack of appropriate medical care for a treatable condition which is not their fault.

Deborah




Edited 7/16/2010 4:57 am ET by muddymessalonskee
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Registered: 08-16-2005
Fri, 07-16-2010 - 5:49am

Sorry, red herring is that 'children will die'...please show me where your are denied medical care in the US.


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Registered: 11-27-2009
Fri, 07-16-2010 - 11:17am

Of course it's not really free, but they are telling peope you will get these services without having to pay a deductible or co-pay.

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