Freedom of speech threatened?

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Registered: 07-11-2006
Freedom of speech threatened?
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Sun, 01-16-2011 - 11:35am

As many of you know, I have a problem with Palin's gun sights and with some of the Tea Party's violent rhetoric. Many on this board have defended Palin. Palin herself has accused those who want the rhetoric toned down of interfering with free speech. At the filming of "This Week" one of the people who was shot twice, but lived, after the Arizona massacre, snapped a photo of a Tea Partier who was saying the it is inappropriate to talk about the vitriol until we, as a nation, have mourned more.

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Registered: 01-22-2000
Sun, 01-16-2011 - 2:00pm

"At the filming of "This Week" one of the people who was shot twice, but lived, after the Arizona massacre, snapped a photo of a Tea Partier who was saying the it is inappropriate to talk about the vitriol until we, as a nation, have mourned more"

...and this man

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Registered: 09-08-2006
Sun, 01-16-2011 - 5:10pm

The only thing I can say is people like Hitler and

 

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Registered: 07-11-2006
Sun, 01-16-2011 - 6:09pm

What isn't and shouldnt be protected

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Registered: 02-28-2008
Sun, 01-16-2011 - 7:48pm

The only free speech that is protected free speech is political speech you cannot yell fire in a crowded movie theater church or hospital and you cannot incite violence or riots that is unlawful use of "free speech."

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Registered: 07-11-2006
Sun, 01-16-2011 - 9:38pm

How is it that it is legal for a Palin supporter to yell "terrorist" and "kill him" at a political event, but a Arizona shooting victim is not legally allowed to yell "you're dead" and snap a photo at a Tea Party rep who was making a political statement about how other's should not be making political statements.

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Registered: 06-02-2009
Sun, 01-16-2011 - 11:13pm
Because the Tea Party movement are the only people that clearly understand the constitution, love America, and are able to fix all the wrongs caused by the Democrats. Did you not get the memo ?? They are allowed to say and do whatever they want.
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Registered: 07-16-2008
Mon, 01-17-2011 - 12:01am
The website is tasteless but far from an original idea. The language is inflammatory but has screen shots of the Dem's being just as tasteless.

I'm no fan of Palin but there is no remote proof linking her to this animal in Arizona.

http://www.verumserum.com/?p=13647
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Registered: 02-28-2008
Mon, 01-17-2011 - 1:37am

I could give you the whole two wrongs dont make a right jazz but thats a cop out.

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Registered: 07-11-2006
Mon, 01-17-2011 - 8:57am

he was making a direct threat to another person

I am not convinced. There is very little evidence that I know of but two things seem clear, he yelled or said "You're dead" and he snapped a photo. Was that a gesture to show the speaker how quickly a "shot" can be fired? Or was it a threat of intended harm? Is there any evidence to support the idea that the photographer implied future harm to the Tea Partier?

Again, I don't see the difference between the photographer's actions, the overzealous McCain/Palin supporter's actions, and Sarah Palin's map of people under gun sights.

I am wondering why one results in a criminal charge and a psych eval and the other two are "just fine". What is the difference?

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Registered: 07-11-2006
Mon, 01-17-2011 - 9:09am

Good to "see" you!

I've seen that map with the targets and the districts. For me the difference is the "target" vs the gunsight and the state/district vs the person. IMO, those are quite different. I also thing the expression "targeting efforts at" is commonly used as a directive. "Aiming" visual gunsights at people's names is, IMO, a threat.

there is no remote proof linking her to this animal in Arizona.

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