Glad some of this insanity is finally being addressed

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Glad some of this insanity is finally being addressed
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Wed, 06-22-2011 - 11:22am
 

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Registered: 11-27-2009
I don't agree with forcing a woman to have an ultrasound before and abortion, however, I agree with informed consent. I think that she should be aware of the procedure, what exactly is being removed from her body, and the risks of the procedure. I would be more in favor of a session with a counselor, but then one must worry about bias, either way, towards abortion on the part of the counselor. Women seeking abortion are very vulnerable and acting pretty much on just emotion. Not a good place to be when making such a huge decision.
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Registered: 05-03-2011
sweetlyfe wrote:
I don't agree with forcing a woman to have an ultrasound before and abortion, however, I agree with informed consent. I think that she should be aware of the procedure, what exactly is being removed from her body, and the risks of the procedure. I would be more in favor of a session with a counselor, but then one must worry about bias, either way, towards abortion on the part of the counselor. Women seeking abortion are very vulnerable and acting pretty much on just emotion. Not a good place to be when making such a huge decision.
I agree with you regarding the ultrasound issue.
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Registered: 05-28-2011

I'm all for making the woman see an ultrasound of her baby.

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Registered: 11-27-2009
Well, we will have to disagree. I feel that emotions running high when someone finds themselves unexpectedly pregnant, especially with an unwanted, not just unexpected pregnancy. It happened to me three time out of four while I was married (don't trust diaphrams). Each one was not as difficult as the first to adjust to, but it was an emotional time for me. I don't think that I am unique, I know I'm not an emotional person at all. I didn't cry when any of my kids graduated or left for college. I had to look this up, but here's one study that supports my suspicion:
"Findings indicated significantly greater distress in the aborting women, with lower levels after the abortion. The effects on emotional well-being of personal and contextual factors and their interactions were also examined."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8484432

As for knowing what they are removing from their body, yes and no. In the abstract, yes. In specific terms, no.
I've obtained a lot of signatures for informed consent, the amount of information is minimal, my personal experience with myself and outpatient surgeries, (4 in the last 4 years), the information provided is minimal.
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Registered: 05-03-2011
What kind of informed consent do you think needs to be given for abortions?

Also, of course, making a decision to abort is emotional. It doesn't mean that a woman isn't thinking straight.
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Registered: 11-27-2009
Thorough consent should be given just as should be given for any invasive procedure, and any invasive procedure that is elective; risks, both physical and emotional and where to go for assistance; options to the procedure, and knowledge of the stage of development of the fetus.

I'm glad you see my point on intensified emotions at a time like this in a woman's life. It isn't about whether the woman is "thinking straight". It's just about facts of the thought process when emotions are running high and still making the best choice for one's self.
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Registered: 05-03-2011

I did a quick google search on informed consent for abortions.

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Registered: 03-03-2009
Look at the phrasing you used. "Make a woman look". In a nutshell, that's the problem. Why should a woman be forced, compelled? Who in their right mind would think that a coercive act is essential to a decision?

And the "those who want to protect the life of a child still in the mother's womb" is another apparent attempt to justify the unwarranted arrogance and intrusion into what is nobody else's damn business.

Just for grins, try the same phrasing on some intimate aspect of your own body and see how much you enjoy it.

Jabberwocka

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And? I'm not sure what the point is.
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I would like to protect those lives, however, I am not in a position to financially do that. My opinion changed on abortion when I worked in the NICU. I used to think of the fetus as just a bunch of cells that would eventually become a baby, and that's from a nurse that had to learn all about fetal development. It was a comfortable place to be to support abortion.
In a perfect world there would be no abortion because there would be no unwanted pregnancies. Kid's that are less likely to use birth control wouldn't be having casual sex in such a cavalier manner. ( I know this happens as I've been previe to some instances where after the girl the next day was a wreck b/c: she thought she might be pregnant, was distraught over what was now being said about her and embarrassed to the point of suicidal ideation in one case because there was more than one guy. )
In a perfect world birth control would never fail, In a perfect world the men that impregnate the women would always stick around and help support the child, emotionally, physically and financially.
But it's not a perfect world and I find myself at a lost and very conflicted on what is the best way to approach this issue.

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