Grrr..guns do kill!

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Grrr..guns do kill!
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Wed, 07-14-2010 - 6:38pm

When are the RePuBlIcAn's going to get it? Guns do kill, and they do kill those that are supposed to love each other! I am so upset and hurt for this family right now, no words can explain it.


http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20100714/US.Mayor.Daughter.Dead/


Texas mayor apparently shot teen daughter, self

By ELIDA S. PEREZ, AP
41 minutes ago
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Registered: 12-25-2008
Wed, 07-14-2010 - 6:42pm
It is indeed a tragedy for that family, no argument there at all.

 


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Registered: 03-03-2009
Wed, 07-14-2010 - 7:05pm

Here's the more accurate description of the NRA's logic-flawed line that "guns don't kill people, people kill people": PEOPLE WITH GUNS KILL PEOPLE.

And of course, the greater the firepower and speed of the weapon, coupled with ease of use and concealment, the more people can be killed without time to flee.

Jabberwocka

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Registered: 12-25-2008
Wed, 07-14-2010 - 7:13pm

Logically speaking it's a perfectly valid and completely unflawed observation, since by itself a firearm

 


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Registered: 04-16-2009
Wed, 07-14-2010 - 7:13pm


I will never understand American fixation with guns.

A gun is designed to kill. It's a lethal weapon.

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Registered: 08-22-2003
Wed, 07-14-2010 - 7:14pm
So if she didn't have a gun, they would still be alive? It's obvious the mayor did the killings. She just used a gun. If there was no gun available, she would have found another way.

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Registered: 12-25-2008
Wed, 07-14-2010 - 7:20pm

Guns are designed to use the expanding gas to propel a projectile down a tube toward a target of the users choosing.

 


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Registered: 03-03-2009
Wed, 07-14-2010 - 8:39pm

The mother could have stabbed her daughter to death while the daughter was unconscious or asleep; or she could have put poison into her daughter's food and drink; or she could have strangled her daughter to death with a garrote. Sure, there are a number of ways to murder, particularly a single individual.


But suicide is a little more tricky sans firearm.


And none of those ways I mentioned would have the speed of a gun shot. The murder/suicide was a crime of opportunity with the weapon being a large part of the opportunity. Moreover, studies have shown that a weapon within a household can be a contributing factor to both domestic violence and suicide.


Facts on Firearms and Domestic Violence


  1. In 2000, in homicides where the weapon was known, 50 percent (1,342 of 2,701) of female homicide victims were killed with a firearm. Of those female firearm homicides, 1,009 women (75 percent) were killed with a handgun.




  2. More than five times as many women were murdered by an intimate acquaintance (605) than by a stranger (113) in the year 2000. Additionally, while firearm homicides involving male victims were mostly intra-gender, 95 percent of female firearm homicide victims were murdered by a male.




  3. Domestic violence against women is a disturbingly common occurrence in the United States. Estimates from the National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) indicate that from 1993 to 1998, women were victims of violent crimes by their intimate partners an average of more than 935,000 times a year. During this period, intimate-partner violence comprised 22 percent of all violent crimes against women. Although firearms are used in a relatively small percentage of domestic violence incidents, when a firearm is present, domestic violence can and all too often does turn into domestic homicide. Congress, recognizing the unique and deadly role firearms play in domestic violence passed the Protective Order Gun Ban in 1994. The law prohibits gun possession by a person against whom there is a restraining or protective order for domestic violence. In 1996, Congress passed the Domestic Violence Misdemeanor Gun Ban, which prohibits anyone convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence or child abuse from purchasing or possessing a gun.




  4. A 1997 study that examined the risk factors for violent death for women in the home found that when there were one or more guns in the home, the risk of suicide among women increased nearly five times and the risk of homicide increased more than three times. The increased risk of homicide associated with firearms was attributable to homicides at the hands of a spouse, intimate acquaintance, or close relative.




  5. An analysis of female domestic homicides (a woman murdered by a spouse, intimate acquaintance, or close relative) showed that prior domestic violence in the household made a woman 14.6 times more likely, and having one or more guns in the home made a woman 7.2 times more likely, to be the victim of such a homicide.




  6. The circumstances of firearms violence differ significantly between men and women. Compared to a man, a woman is far more likely to be killed by her spouse, an intimate acquaintance, or a family member than murdered by a stranger or an unidentified intruder. A 1976 to 1987 analysis of Federal Bureau of Investigation data revealed that more than twice as many women were shot and killed by their husbands or intimate acquaintances than were murdered by strangers using firearms, knives, or any other means.




  7. Between 1976 and 1996, 65 percent of the male and female victims of intimate partner homicides were killed with a firearm. And while rates of intimate partner homicide have been declining, the ratio of female-to-male victims has risen. In other words, when an intimate-partner homicide occurs, it is increasingly likely that a woman is the victim rather than a man.




  8. Having a gun in the home makes it three times more likely that you or someone you care about will be murdered by a family member or intimate partner.




  9. A firearm in the home may be a key factor in the escalation of nonfatal spousal abuse to homicide. In a study of family and intimate assaults for the city of Atlanta, Georgia, in 1984, firearm-associated family and intimate assaults were 12 times more likely to result in death than non-firearm associated assaults between family and intimates.




  10. The effects of firearm-related domestic violence last long beyond the actual crime. In a study on child witnesses of marital violence, the authors noted that children who observed incidents of domestic violence involving the use or threat of a firearm exhibited higher levels of behavior problems than children who did not.


Jabberwocka

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Registered: 12-25-2008
Wed, 07-14-2010 - 8:54pm
{snicker}

 


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Registered: 08-22-2003
Wed, 07-14-2010 - 9:02pm
So what you're saying is that she wouldn't have done this if she didn't have a gun? She could have pulled the car into the garage and they could have died from carbon monoxide poisoning. I maintain it was the individual; not the instrument used.

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Registered: 03-10-2010
Wed, 07-14-2010 - 9:13pm
I think it is more about the ease of killing with a gun as opposed to strangling or tying someone up, dragging them to a garage and gassing them to death. Guns provide for a quick and easy way to get the job done.

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