Handel resigns from Komen

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Handel resigns from Komen
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Tue, 02-07-2012 - 11:14am

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Registered: 05-03-2011
Tue, 02-07-2012 - 11:18am
"Karen Handel, the charity's vice president for public policy, told Komen officials that she supported the move to cut off funding for Planned Parenthood. She said the discussion started before she arrived at the organization and was approved at the highest levels of the charity."

Yes, that doesn't surprise me after all the reading I've been doing on Komen. Unfortunately for Komen, too many people have learned too much about Komen to go back to supporting them even with this resignation.
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Registered: 04-09-2011
Tue, 02-07-2012 - 11:21am

What we see here are rats leaving the sunk ship. ;-)

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Registered: 01-09-2012
Tue, 02-07-2012 - 12:34pm

Loss for SGK. They had someone who felt the organization had a right to support whom they chose instead of what those who like media spectacles wanted them to choose. Apparently donations are now mandatory and you cannot pick your own recipient. Now neither SGK nor PP will ever see my money or my time. I will go back to supporting the American Cancer Society, if I still retain that right.

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Registered: 04-09-2011
Tue, 02-07-2012 - 12:40pm

Loss for SGK. They had someone who felt the organization had a right to support whom they chose instead of what those who like media spectacles wanted them to choose. Apparently donations are now mandatory and you cannot pick your own recipient. Now neither SGK nor PP will ever see my money or my time. I will go back to supporting the American Cancer Society, if I still retain that right.

Oh, it's a loss all right, but not as how you intend. She sank their brand and now happily marches off to another opportunity.

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Registered: 05-03-2011
Tue, 02-07-2012 - 12:42pm
Of course you have a right to support whatever charity you choose. It's a bit ridiculous to make a comment that you don't.

For some reason, some on the right are playing the victim with regard to people choosing not to support Komen any more and are calling it "bullying." That's a load of crap. It appears that a large number of people have decided that Komen isn't about helping women receive screenings for breast cancer and have decided not to support that organization. Those people are just exercising their right to support organizations of their choice, just as you can support whatever you choose to.
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Registered: 01-09-2012
Tue, 02-07-2012 - 12:59pm

What sank their brand was the flip-flop back to giving money to PP once again. Take a stand and stick with it or be ready for both sides of the controversy to be upset with you. She did not make a mistake in choosing where to give her money, SGK made a mistake in caving to the loudest voice. People that donated money to SGK during the 48 hour period where they had determined they were not donating to PP were thrown under the bus while SGK kept that sudden intake of cash from supporters. People saw through SGK and started to find things they would not have seen without all the fray. I hope she gets another opportunity. She is a smart woman and this country needs more people with morals strong enough to stand by them instead of caving to politics.

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Tue, 02-07-2012 - 1:03pm
iluvkrat wrote:
Of course you have a right to support whatever charity you choose. It's a bit ridiculous to make a comment that you don't.

For some reason, some on the right are playing the victim with regard to people choosing not to support Komen any more and are calling it "bullying." That's a load of crap. It appears that a large number of people have decided that Komen isn't about helping women receive screenings for breast cancer and have decided not to support that organization. Those people are just exercising their right to support organizations of their choice, just as you can support whatever you choose to.

I do not find it ridiculous at all. SGK should have the right to give to whomever they want but apparently they do not. They must give to what the liberal agenda says and if they do not, the rhetoric that they are deliberately pulling money from exams for low-income women is pulled out of the bag of tricks. I have not heard about the bullying tactic you speak about. I think that the liberals caused more damage in that department, per my comment above. It is a shame that the individuals have the right to support whom they choose yet are called derogatory names if they do, and organizations do not have the right to choose. Double standard I suppose.

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Tue, 02-07-2012 - 1:12pm
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Yes, they do, and citizens have the right to decide whether they want to donate to the charity. A vast number of previous supporters have decided that their money would be better spent going to Planned Parenthood instead of Komen.

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Nonsense. Komen decided that they were going to pull grant money from Planned Parenthood who was providing exams and vouchers for mammograms to women in need.

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Here's a couple of links. A google search will provide lots more examples of whining from the right about "bullying" and "thuggish" behavior.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/dan-gainor/2012/02/02/radical-left-media-target-komen-over-planned-parenthood-fight

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/02/03/after-public-backlash-komen-reverses-position-will-support-planned-parenthood/

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I didn't hear any "derogatory" name calling. What I did hear were lots and lots of people who were very disappointed that Komen, an organization that they supported, was cancelling grants to Planned Parenthood because they provide abortions. Those people were vocal in explaining why they no longer supported Komen. I don't see a "double standard" there.
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Tue, 02-07-2012 - 1:20pm

What is white-washed over is that some people agree that when you give money to an organization that does abortions, you are supporting abortions. Plain and simple, SGK stopped giving money to PP. They did not stop giving money to women who want breast exams. PP did that. PP can re-allocate money. It is a liberal twist to say that SGK stopped paying for exams. SGK has as much right as I do to not support an organization that provides abortions without people turning it into more than it was.

I do not expect to make you or anyone here agree but there are many people out there who were glad to see SGK/Handel make the decision that it did, then were disappointed when SGK went back on that decision after taking our money and who no longer support SGK or PP. SGK for taking money given in support for a decision they then changed and PP for still providing abortions.

I will not call your posts nonsense, you are entitled to your thoughts, but I will continue to be glad for the right to speak our minds and be sad that yet again something was twisted nastily in order to achieve something entirely different. PP got more money for abortions and in the process made the SGK organization look worse than they already made themselves look. Not sure there's a 'win' in there for anyone, and that is the sad part.

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Tue, 02-07-2012 - 1:35pm
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Yes, I saw that in various comment sections and a bit on FB. Unfortunately for Komen, I think that those numbers are far smaller than those who support Planned Parenthood as was shown by the huge amount of money donated to Planned Parenthood in a matter of days. I don't think Komen got anywhere near that volume of money and was part of the reason why they tried to backtrack.

<<...be sad that yet again something was twisted nastily in order to achieve something entirely different. PP got more money for abortions and in the process made the SGK organization look worse than they already made themselves look.>>

Seriously? Talk about "twisting"...Planned Parenthood didn't get "more money for abortions," they got more money in order to provide comprehensive family planning resources to include education, reproductive health care, birth control, and abortion.

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