Have we loosened up on Terrorism

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Registered: 10-23-2001
Have we loosened up on Terrorism
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Tue, 04-16-2013 - 1:42pm

God, I hope not but wonder if this latest act could have been prevented.  Not to drag in some recent history but there were absolutely NO terror acts after 9/11 under Bush's watch in the US, He held true to those promises too.  There are still questions to be asked and answers to be heard here and while this is a local incident there are local entities that have been feeling the pinch to cut back thanks to problems at the top  Obama needs to seriously slow down his social plans and agenda and rev up fundamental issues like national safety and security. 

A recent article from CNN I found interesting:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/20/opinion/inhofe-mckeon-budget-cut-military



 

 


 


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iVillage Member
Registered: 04-09-2006
Tue, 04-16-2013 - 11:27pm

No terror attacks?  Um...no.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States

iVillage Member
Registered: 10-17-2012
Wed, 04-17-2013 - 12:30am

Yes...right after Obama was elected.

iVillage Member
Registered: 09-01-2002
Thu, 04-18-2013 - 8:31am

Pres. Bush was in office for 8 months when 9/11 happened.  As all Presidents do, Clinton left for Bush 43 the summary of intelligence about the al Quaeda threats.  Bush ignored them.  I guess Pres. Clinton should have sat down and read these letters to Bush during storytime.

Bush 43 was aware of the al Quaeda threat and chose to ignore it.  Instead of avenging 9/11, Bush started 2 frivolous wars ~ Iraq and Afghanistan ~ which the US cannot pay for.  Bush and Cheney should be behind bars.

Obama on the other hand, finally brought the 9/11 masterminds to justice.  They're all dead or awaiting trial now.   Thank God for Obama.  For the first time in history, major US cities and state/federal agencies are working together to quell terrorism.  For instance, it's just a matter of time before the Boston bomber(s) is captured.

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Registered: 10-23-2001
Thu, 04-18-2013 - 12:44pm

I don't agree thardy. It's clear the enemies were on our soil long before Bush took office. What are you saying Clinton did to protect our country? Yea, The man tried to hunt down Bin laden and he was unsuccessful. He could have done plenty more and it shouldn't have taken 9/11 to put into place a homeland security either. I agree that Iraq was an unnecessary war but you can't deny that more could have been done to protect our country before Bush took office.  

I'm voting Republican next time around if safety doesn't improve..  :)

 


 


iVillage Member
Registered: 09-01-2002
Thu, 04-18-2013 - 2:25pm

Jamblessed, I don't think any one party is going to prevent terrorism better than the other.  The Republicans were in office for 8 months by 9/11.  No one can blame the Democrats at that point. 

al Qaeda "on our soil before 9/11" ~ Are you talking about al Qaeda enrolling in flying schools in Florida, learning how to take off and fly a jumbo jet liner....but not learning how to land?   If so, I think if we want to render a President a lame duck, then we have to live with the consequences too.  It was amazing that Clinton ~ a Democrat ~ was able to leave office with a budget surplus.  Pres. Bush didn't.  Instead, he left behind 2 pointless wars we simply cannot pay for. 

Anyway, we are finally realizing that the federal government - the US Supreme Court and the Congress - cannot do everything we want.  Or anything (yesterday's gun control bill).  Instead, the states, their agencies, the city agencies have had to root out terrorism and depend only on themselves.  What a waste to have such a huge federal defense budget.

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Registered: 01-25-2010
Thu, 04-18-2013 - 2:46pm

  That is the real problem.  Insurrection is available from all directions.  It is a method to direct change by lowering the belief in government to protect one.  In the past those have failed in the United States because the populace was well armed. 

Goldfish

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Registered: 01-25-2010
Thu, 04-18-2013 - 2:57pm

Recall that Obama went on to be a nation builder in Afghanistan rather than get Bin Laden and get out.  He made the mistake of trying to Be a nation builder.  He also gave the terrorists advance warning on what we are capable of with drone attacks rather than teams of assassins.  The Soviets KGB inspired fear through vicious kidnappings and killings to do the same thing when middle eastern terrorists tried them.  Body parts were given to the families who the Soviets knew were in on terrorists activities. 

   Any country can have terrorists.  Germany(West) had Baden-Hoff during the 60's.   It will take time for the investigation to come to it's end. 

Goldfish

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Registered: 09-01-2002
Thu, 04-18-2013 - 4:12pm

xxxs wrote:
<p>  That is the real problem.  Insurrection is available from all directions.  It is a method to direct change by lowering the belief in government to protect one.  In the past those have failed in the United States because the populace was well armed. </p>

How would being armed have helped the innocents at the Boston Marathon?  Oklahoma City bombing? at Sandy Hook? 

By the way, no one's precious rights have been impinged.  That's the take-a-way from yesterday's defeat of the Gun Control bill.  No one's rights would've been taken away by implementing background checks either.

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Registered: 09-01-2002
Thu, 04-18-2013 - 4:16pm

xxxs wrote:
<p>Recall that Obama went on to be a nation builder in Afghanistan rather than get Bin Laden and get out.  He made the mistake of trying to Be a nation builder.  He also gave the terrorists advance warning on what we are capable of with drone attacks rather than teams of assassins.  The Soviets KGB inspired fear through vicious kidnappings and killings to do the same thing when middle eastern terrorists tried them.  Body parts were given to the families who the Soviets knew were in on terrorists activities. </p><p>   Any country can have terrorists.  Germany(West) had Baden-Hoff during the 60's.   It will take time for the investigation to come to it's end.  </p>

You mean Bush.  Bush started the war in Afghanistan.  Obama is the one who thankfully set an end-date to one of the two longest wars in US history.

iVillage Member
Registered: 09-08-2006
Thu, 04-18-2013 - 5:36pm

Perhaps, the question should be has hate groups grown much in this country?  According to the Southern Poverty Law Center some rather dangerous groups have grown quite a bit since Obama has taken office. I find this fact sad.

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