Healthcare vs Corporate Interests

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Healthcare vs Corporate Interests
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Wed, 01-29-2014 - 1:46pm

"The movement to ensure that health care facilities promote health, not corporate profits, is gaining speed. It’s time for hospitals across the country to say “no more” to corporate interests encroaching on patients’ access to quality health care."

http://truth-out.org/news/item/11964-breastfeeding-moms-boot-nestle-from-maternity-wards


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Registered: 10-17-2012
Fri, 03-07-2014 - 12:27am

"The movement to ensure that health care facilities promote health, not corporate profits, is gaining speed."

...Ridiculous... not the "gaining speed" part, but the notion of separating health care from profits.

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Registered: 07-11-2006
Wed, 03-05-2014 - 7:49pm

Do you mean that it is "ridiculous" to prevent formula makers from advertising and promoting their product in health care environments? Or is something else "ridiculous"?

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Registered: 10-17-2012
Tue, 03-04-2014 - 1:10am

Ridiculous.

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Registered: 03-03-2009
Sat, 02-01-2014 - 5:23pm

To Nisupulla:  

When my children were born in the early 80's, I was in the minority of mothers who wanted to breastfeed.  Efforts with my son were so-so.  I had greater success with DD.  Even then, La Leche advocated extremes--lactating mothers who had probems with fussy babies should give up dairy, feed on demand, and avoid supplemental formula.  There was no internet then, just in-person, on-phone or hard copy advice.   Mother-friendly?  Not IMHO.    

Fast forward to present time.  I am guessing that many mothers get a substantial share of their childrearing information online.  It takes more than a little effort for new mothers to pull together all the paraphanelia of baby transport and tending in order to go to meetings and/or support groups.  Sooooo...what's on the internet or in printed materials does matter just as much, if not more, than face to face interaction.  And there's a lot of pure hogwash out there.  Cutting of "tongue ties". Claims that breastfeeding is never painful, that breastfed babies are more intelligent.  Heck, the WHO states that women should breast feed for a year!  Might make sense in Mali but probably not so much in Maui!  

My grandson was less than a week old when DD and her husband visited a "lactation consultant".  DD had a long labor, had pushed for five hours, and was exhausted.  Did it all without any medical interventions.  But like a trooper she insisted on feeding her baby whenever he cried.  She was so sore after four days that there was blood in the breast milk.  The witch doctor/lactation consultant claimed that my grandson was "tongue tied" and cut the baby's frenulum with a laser.   She told my SIL and DD to keep the open sore from healing by pushing a tongue depressor up on the underside of his tongue.  She also claimed that he was allergic to the dairy products my daugher was consuming.  She told DD to push down the baby's chin when he nursed and the pressure made his thin little skin break open.  She chastised DD for swaddling the baby and having mitts on his little hands.  When my DD had questions about how to express her milk the "doctor" told her to watch a video.  IRL this woman should have never been allowed near a new mother.  She was abrasive, opinionated and.......wait for it.....dead wrong.  The baby's cheeks were chapped and red because in his hunger, he was scrubbing at them with his hands--not because he had an allergy to dairy.  Women DO get raw and chapped nipples that can bleed.  Swaddling is fine if it's done without causing hip displasia.  Better mitts on a baby's hands than that he should cut himself with razor sharp little finger nails.  As for the tongue tied claim I do not know how that could be proved.  Pediatrician had seen the baby the day before and didn't say a durn thing about the baby's tongue being deformed to the point that he could not nurse.   

Had I been along, there would have been (at the very least) a tongue lashing from me of a medical doctor who must have ignored the part of the Hippocratic Oath which goes "I will prescribe regimens for the good of my patients according to my ability and my judgment and never do harm to anyone"!    She was a disaster for both my daughter and my dear little grandson.  Seems likely that she's done harm to other new mothers and their helpless infants, all in the name of breastfeeding.  

In my experience, zealots are frequently prone to excess and extremes.  Individuals don't matter as much as the zealots' "cause".  And that's a damn shame since life is  a unique combination for each of us.  

Jabberwocka

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Registered: 03-03-2009
Sat, 02-01-2014 - 4:09pm
To PSS--yeah, I had similar sentiments ;-)

Jabberwocka

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Registered: 07-11-2006
Fri, 01-31-2014 - 5:08pm

"too many activist lactators have lost sight of the fact that the needs of both baby and mother may require an alternative to exclusive breastfeeding"

That's an interesting opinion and I hear it a lot on the internet. IRL I have never met a person who ranks the feeding needs of the infant over the mother's own needs.

Nisu

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Registered: 01-14-2011
Fri, 01-31-2014 - 6:45am

Well knock me over with a feather!!  I actually agree with most of what you just said.

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Registered: 03-03-2009
Thu, 01-30-2014 - 10:39pm

My daughter is doing her best to breast feed her newborn. It's been a struggle.  I have been grateful for the fallback position of supplementing with formula.  The pediatrician (same one I took her to when she was a baby) gave her several free cans of Enfamil after her son lost over a pound from his birth weight in spite of my daughter's dedicated efforts to breast feed around the clock.

Breastfeeding is best but too many activist lactators have lost sight of the fact that the needs of both baby and mother may require an alternative to exclusive breastfeeding.   They are no better, IMHO, than the formula companies were in the 50's, 60's, and 70's.   Some of the stuff they propound is more voodoo and belief than proven fact.

At the end of the day, a mother must make the choices with which she can live.  Extremists have no right to foist their belief systems on others by "booting out" a choice.  

Jabberwocka

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Registered: 01-14-2011
Wed, 01-29-2014 - 8:28pm

There is extreme pressure on new mothers to breastfeed their infants.  It should be a mother's personal decision to breastfeed and to restrict access to free formula from the hospital is not going to make a difference.   This article refers to new mothers who recieve free formula are less inclined to breast feed their children. This seems a little far fetched.  I didn't see any thing to back up those allegations.    I breastfed both my children till the age of 9 months and I receivied free formula from the hospital, but that had no effect on my decision whether to breastfeed or not.  

Some women can do it, and many can't.  I have heard from many of my friends that they were under extreme pressure by the hospital to breastfeed their infants, and when they couldn't, they were made to feel like failures.  I don't see anything wrong with including samples to send home with new mothers. Because if those who are successful in breastfeeding won't use those samples, and those who can't will be thankful for the additional cost savings.

The most important thing is thing is that a newborn is fed well and that the mother has a choice as to how to feed her infant.  This  anti-capitist article is pure drivel.