In his bitter words...

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In his bitter words...
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Wed, 09-19-2012 - 4:41pm
I skimmed it, but darn time constraints, ha :-)
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Wed, 09-19-2012 - 4:46pm

rofl... you all make Obama sound like the meanest, badest person in all the land. He gets no credit for foreign policy, despite successes. He gets no credit for leadership, despite trying to bring sides together, he gets no credit on the economy despite positve numbers from around six months into his administration onward (a reasonable amount of time for a president to get rolling.)

There are some who hate him simply because he's a Democrat. Some who hate him for being progressive/liberal. Some hate him for his skln colour, and some for all of these things.

Obama is a centrist, I'm well left of him. For the record, I consider Carter, Ford, Clinton, GHWB, and Nixon to be centrists.

The right makes stuff up. It condemns its own ideas once Obama embraces them. The right is irrational. My gosh, I expect as a movement, the right will soon need rabies shots.

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Wed, 09-19-2012 - 5:04pm
It's called "preventive medicine" and there are other things that are being mandated that insurance companies cover without copays/deductibles such as mammograms and colonoscopies.
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Wed, 09-19-2012 - 5:04pm
Not a chance in hell.
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Wed, 09-19-2012 - 5:05pm
From a site that has "Jihad Watch" as one of the options at the top of their page? Seriously?
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Wed, 09-19-2012 - 5:16pm
<< To reduce the female narrative to that of reproductive issues was the insulting part to me.>>

Then why is the GOP trying to limit reproductive rights?
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Wed, 09-19-2012 - 5:30pm

Another small problem--that piece on the "lies of Obama" is dodgy. The author don't provide verbatim quotes or verifiable sources for what Obama actually said; nor do he provide any links/proof to substantiate the so-called "truth".   The very first statement says that "he now presses for passage of bills that include savage cuts in Medicare." Not quite true. More at http://swampland.time.com/2012/08/16/fact-check-obamacares-medicare-cuts/

Next one. Obama promised 90% of the jobs would be in the private sector but they were not. Really? REALLY? I looked high and low but couldn't find any such commitment except at sites echoing the same unproved claim. Heck, even Reince Priebus didn't make that claim in his U.S. News piece on the five biggest failures of Obama's stimulus laws: http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2012/02/17/the-five-biggest-failures-from-president-obamas-stimulus-law

Plodding along, we go to the next item: that Obama is on the record favoring a single payer system. Mebbe, mebbe not. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jul/16/barack-obama/obama-statements-single-payer-have-changed-bit/

Anybody seeing a trend here? BTW, just for grins I googled some of the key phrases of that piece and son-of-a-gun it looks like the piece IN ITS ENTIRETY is on other anti-Obama websites. http://rense.com/general89/lies.htm; http://vocalminority.typepad.com/blog/election_2008/*

So..... I'm thinking that this compilation of Obama's lies is the stuff of those stupid e-mails which are sent to the gullible in hopes that they'll think "if it's in print, it must be true".  As per usual, the whole truth is MIA. Those "lies" are a conglomeration of some truth, some arrant whoppers, and a whole helluva lot of omission and misplaced context. IOW, not credible.

Geez, you'd think that people would bother to vet this stuff before chowing down on it and/or serving it up for others. It's not really all that hard.....

*VM didn't even bother to give credit to FrontPage Mag for doing the deceiving for them. 

Jabberwocka

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Wed, 09-19-2012 - 5:53pm
I agree that doing research is a vital part of learning to analyze and think critically. Used to tell my children that facts and sound information were like gold--very valuable but takes work and digging. This was about the time the internet was beginning to move beyond the world of academe. Now, finding information is almost ludicrously easy. As for impressions of political figures, it probably is better to make those in person when possible. I saw Obama when he came to Espanola and wasn't as impressed with him as others were but still saw him as infinitely preferable to the warhawk rhetoric of John McCain. Sarah Palin made me gag at her ignorance and inability to communicate cogently.

Am I better off than I was four years ago? My DH's business is. But the housing market troubles took a terrible toll on our personal finances and retirement plans. Then I look at Romney and his team of Bush-duplicate foreign policy advisers and think "Iraq Redux" in Iran. NO THANK YOU!

As for government mandating birth control coverage, I'm surprised that insurance companies didn't make the choice (irony intended) for themselves. After all, it's much less costly to pay for birth control than it is to cover the cost of a healthy pregnancy, birth and neonatal care. But it's quite true that they did not do so for many years, even though men could get coverage for the cost of drugs which treated impotence when Levitra, Cialis, etc. came on the market. Go figure.

My family practice physician told me some time back (well before the start of the Obama presidency and ACA) that health care was mostly political and gender driven. She noted that there was a lot of concern about prostate cancer but according to her, any male who lives long enough winds up with elevated PSA counts. I don't get too agitated about a long overdue balancing of the scales.

I still have seen no proof that the female narrative of the Democratic convention was reduced to reproductive issues. How 'bout it?

Jabberwocka

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Wed, 09-19-2012 - 5:58pm
Lovely
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