House Passes Amendment on Medical Training in GYN

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House Passes Amendment on Medical Training in GYN
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Fri, 05-27-2011 - 9:01pm

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Registered: 05-03-2011
Wed, 06-01-2011 - 9:07am
You should educate yourself on how teaching hospitals are funded. As to the rest of the drivel, you apparently don't know me because I am truly pissed that some congresscritters think they can pick and choose what procedures should and should not be taught to physicians, particularly when it is clearly obvious that they haven't thought it through. If they decide to interfere with the education of physicians, this will greatly impact the care that women receive, or actually won't be able to receive because these ideological yahoos decided that because a procedure such as a D&C *could* be used for abortion, physicians shouldn't be trained to do them. As jabberwocka stated, D&Cs are used much, much more often for non-abortions than they are for abortions, yet once again the anti-choice crowd wants to stick their noses where they don't belong and now mess up women's health care.
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Wed, 06-01-2011 - 9:14am
The Foxx amendment said abortion procedures wouldn't be federally funded and taught to MD's. D&C's are one procedure used in some abortions, but it is also necessary for other health care needs. (as pointed out time and time again here) The Foxx amendment said abortion procedures should''t be government funded and taught not procedures that would be necessary to the health of women; ie D&C's
So, hysteria aside, D&Cs would never have been effected by this amendment.
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Wed, 06-01-2011 - 9:21am
How do you think abortions are performed? There are medical abortions with a pill. There is dilatation and suction and dilatation and curettage, the latter two standard procedures that are required for women's health care. It seems to me that this amendment wasn't fully thought out to include unintended consequences. Sounds like someone thought, hey, let's make sure we don't fund training doctors to do abortions, not thinking past that to realize that those same procedures are necessary for lots of other things other than abortions.
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Wed, 06-01-2011 - 10:34am
You still don't seem to acknowledge the fact that doctors can receive the training whenever they want. You seem to think that women will not be able to have this procedure done without the government paying for the training. And that is a load of garbage.

"Resist, we much. We must, and we much. About that, be committed."

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Wed, 06-01-2011 - 10:40am
I seem to remember a recent thread where this happened and some people were up in arms about a post being pulled. Of course, that usually doesn't happen without an "I am so offended" complaint. Oh, and thanks for your unsolicited judgment. I think it offends me. Yeah, that’s it. Maybe I should try and find a way to be offended like that so I can click that button.

"Resist, we much. We must, and we much. About that, be committed."

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Wed, 06-01-2011 - 10:42am
No, they don't "receive the training whenever they want." It is standard training in an OB/GYN resident program.
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Wed, 06-01-2011 - 10:49am

"....hysteria aside, D&Cs would never have been effected by this amendment". Really? Can you guarantee that? Ill-judged and poorly written legislation can have unintended consequences.

Seems to me that Foxx's bill was flawed from the get-go. IF funding was cut for all procedures which might be used for more purposes than abortion alone....well, too damn bad for women.

I don't think it's "hysteria" to point out the possibility. BTW, do you know the roots of the word "hysteria" or how sexist the word is? I'll give you a hint--a hysterectomy was once considered a cure for hysteria. http://www.abcarticledirectory.com/Article/The-Sad-Story-Of-The-Hysterical-Uterus/82642

Conservatives have shown an arrant disregard for us as a gender and our right to self-determination. If this most recent bill isn't proof positive, I don't know what is.

Jabberwocka

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Wed, 06-01-2011 - 10:52am
Funny thing about debate boards. Anybody can post, provided they comply with TOS. No "solicitation" is required.

The last time I read through the terms of service agreement, there was nothing which indicated that your offense alone was sufficient to draw down an iVillage rebuke.

Jabberwocka

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Registered: 05-05-2009
Wed, 06-01-2011 - 12:13pm
This amendment named procedures that are used for women's health care outside of elective abortions, such as D&C's, as procedures that government funds could not be used to fund? Prove it.
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Wed, 06-01-2011 - 12:23pm
Hysteria is an appropriate word for this discussion.(Yes, I know the roots of the word, but thanks anyway)
Training for D&C's will continue to be funded through medical hiospitals, women will still be able to vote, drive, get abortions and granny won't be thrown over a cliff. This bill won't be passed by the Senate anyway or signed into law. (part of the hysteria alleviated )

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