I got this as a joke.....but if it's tru

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Registered: 03-19-2003
I got this as a joke.....but if it's tru
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Fri, 03-14-2008 - 8:22pm
I got this as a joke.....but if it's true then how funny is it?!?!?


Wacky Americans

- We yell for the Government to balance the budget, then take the last dime we have to make the down payment on a car.

- We whip the enemy in battle, then give them the shirt off our backs.

- We yell for speed laws that will stop fast driving, then won't buy a car if it can't go over 100 miles an hour.

- Americans get scared to death if we vote a billion dollars for education, then are unconcerned when we find out we are spending three billion dollars a year for cigarettes.

- We know the line-up of every baseball team in the American and National Leagues but don't know half the words in the "Star Spangled Banner".

- We'll spend half a day looking for vitamin pills to make us live longer, then drive 90 miles an hour on slick pavement to make up for lost time.

- We tie up our dog while letting our sixteen year old son run wild.


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Registered: 01-02-2008
Sat, 03-29-2008 - 2:36am

"English by and English major, History by someone with a degree in History, Math by a math person, science by someone who has a degree in science etc etc etc. "

Did the CA laws change on that, Rose? Back in the day (about 15 years ago, mind you) when I was contemplating a career in education, one did NOT have to have a degree in the subject they wanted to teach. They only had to have *A* degree and pass some credentialing tests. In other words, there was no guarantee that your high school math teacher actually HAD a degree in math (or a "math person" as you put it), or that your history teacher actually HAD a degree in History, etc.

But maybe that's changed?

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Sat, 03-29-2008 - 2:22pm
But the real crime here is that you really don't want to make things equal for "those with fewer options".
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Registered: 03-27-2003
Sat, 03-29-2008 - 7:54pm

How would you propose a voucher system to work?


My school district already has complete choice:

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Registered: 02-27-2008
Sun, 03-30-2008 - 5:19pm

Yes, the laws have changed quite a bit.

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Registered: 01-02-2008
Sun, 03-30-2008 - 8:38pm

Darn it, the site won't let me cut and paste!

Rose, I'm still not seeing where it says a High School Math teacher would necessarily have a math degree, or that a History teacher would be a history major.

I see the requirements listed are :

1. Complete a BA degree or higher from an accredited college (it does not say specifically the degree must be in the single subject area planned to teach)

2. Satisfy Basic Skills Requirement. (? maybe this is it??)

3. Complete a single subject teaching program including successful student teaching (certainly you don't mean this, do you? It's not the same as a BA in History!)

4. Verify subject matter competency by ONE of the following ways:
a. Achieve a passing score on a subject examination
b. Complete a subject competence program OR it's equivalent.
c. and this is the confusing one: for Specialized science only, they make take an exam OR provide proof of completion of course work in the subject.

None of those would seem to guarantee that a high school teacher in California has a degree in the subject they are teaching. It's of particular interest to me personally because I have decided that my true calling is to finish my degree for nursing and become a midwife...but I always figured that later on I could teach high school (social studies perhaps, maybe math) even with a BA in nursing.

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Registered: 02-27-2008
Sun, 03-30-2008 - 10:33pm

Nope, no guarentee.

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Registered: 12-09-2007
Mon, 03-31-2008 - 8:14am

Apparantly you need more "popular ones" then!

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Registered: 03-27-2003
Mon, 03-31-2008 - 10:56am

The popular ones are popular because they have a high degree of parent involvement and parent money.

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Registered: 12-09-2007
Mon, 03-31-2008 - 6:36pm

So long as there are some academic standards that are met than I'm all for more choice for all parents...even when/if there choice is not my choice.


You will always have parents who fail to support their children or who make poor choices.

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Registered: 03-27-2003
Tue, 04-01-2008 - 10:52am

This isn't about making foolish choices.

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