I wonder what would happen if.......

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I wonder what would happen if.......
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Sat, 10-29-2011 - 10:14am

.... a republican strategist, or a conservative commentator, on Fox News Channel had said that Pres. BHO was liked because he was viewed by the democrat party as a "black man who knows his place"?

How much attention would that comment have drawn and in how much of the media?

How much outcry would there be?

How many would be loudly calling for apologies from the network, the show and the host of said show?

How many would vilify the person who made the statement?

I wonder....and I wonder why not.

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Sat, 10-29-2011 - 10:27am
Well, I knew that someone on a so-called "liberal" station must have made that comment or you wouldn't have posted this. Here's an article for anyone interested:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/msnbc-analyst-herman-cain-black-man-who-knows-his-place_604145.html

Apparently an MSNBC analyst, Karen Finney, said this, "One of the things about Herman Cain is, I think that he makes that white Republican base of the party feel okay, feel like they are not racist because they can like this guy," Finney said. "I think he giving that base a free pass. And I think they like him because they think he's a black man who knows his place. I know that's harsh, but that's how it sure seems to me."

I agree with her first sentence, but think the rest of it is nonsense.
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Sat, 10-29-2011 - 10:40am

Well, if you agree with her first sentence, why not the rest? That first sentence contains at least as much nonsense as the rest of her quotation.

How about the host of the show and his response to her statement?

Do you think if a conservative or a republican had said those things on Fox News about Pres. Obama, that we would be hearing about it all over the major news outlets?

Sonny

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Sat, 10-29-2011 - 11:05am
I agree with the first sentence because I do believe there are plenty of racists in the GOP who don't want to admit it or simply can't see that they are who would use their support of Herman Cain as an example of how they aren't racist.

I am not familiar with the show, the host, or Karen Finney. I don't particularly find the host's statement acceptable or unacceptable. I simply have no opinion on it.

As far as Fox News, conservatives, or Republicans saying rotten or shocking things about Obama on t.v., well, that's already been done so many times and it really isn't "all over the major news outlets."
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Sat, 10-29-2011 - 3:22pm

"plenty" of racists?

How many? What percentage, in your opinion?

And, in your mind a person who is a racist can/will support Herman Cain's candidacy?

Sonny

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Sat, 10-29-2011 - 3:51pm
I don't have a percentage, but there are quite a few. They've crawled out from under the rocks where they lived when Americans had the audacity to vote Obama into office. Anyone with their eyes open has to have seen that phenomenon. And please, don't bother with the whole "anyone who disagrees with Obama must be racist" nonsense. I've never said that nor do I believe it.

I don't think a hardcore racist would ever support Cain. Someone who is somewhat racist could possibly vote for Cain, just the same as some people who are racist claim they aren't because they know or work with someone who is black and they get along with them just fine...like that negates all the racist things they say.
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Sat, 10-29-2011 - 4:18pm

Well, let's see....in the last three of your posts, you have gone from agreeing that the republican "base of the party" are racists, to "plenty" of republicans are, and now to "quite a few" being racists who crawled out from under the rocks where they lived. At least it seems like you are moving in the last few hours to a more reasonable representation. I think I will definitely agree with you that there are quite a few racists in who claim to be aligned with the republican party.

I hope that you could definitely agree with me that there are also quite a few racists who claim to be aligned with the democrat party.

So, what if a conservative or a republican had said on a national cable news station that Obama is liked in democrat circles because he was a "black man who knows his place"?

Sonny

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Sat, 10-29-2011 - 5:12pm
No, I didn't. I think you are seeing what you want to see, not what I actually said or meant.

I'm sure there are racists in the Democratic Party. I heard quite a few state they wouldn't ever vote for a black man. Unfortunately for the Republicans, they seem to have quite a few and they don't ever call them out on it. I think they should be instead of trying to claim that they aren't there.

As for your last question, it's such a stupid statement ("black man who knows his place"), particularly for someone who seems to be doing what he wants to do, that I would just think that the person who said such a ridiculous thing is an idiot.
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Sat, 10-29-2011 - 6:45pm

Of course

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Sat, 10-29-2011 - 7:05pm
As I previously stated, there have been plenty of racist, rotten things said by Fox News commentators that didn't get airplay on the other major news outlets.

As for your last paragraph, sorry, not playing that game. :-)
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Sun, 10-30-2011 - 9:01am

No. Most things spoken against the

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