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If Obama wins is anyone else afraid
| Sat, 10-04-2008 - 5:25pm |
of what will happen to our health care and our nation's security? I am paranoid.
| Sat, 10-04-2008 - 5:25pm |
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So... You think this breakdown favors the changes Sen McCain plans on makin?
You don't see Obama making a radical stand?
Kate
Mama to Savannah, Russell and Jackson
What about the functions of the baby's body?
Kate
Mama to Savannah, Russell and Jackson
I do not believe in a woman's right to choice.
Kate
Mama to Savannah, Russell and Jackson
FACT: Barack Obama supports gun owner licensing and gun registration.
The NRA is circulating printed material and running TV ads making unsubstantiated claims that Obama plans to ban use of firearms for home defense, ban possession and manufacture of handguns, close 90 percent of gun shops and ban hunting ammunition.
Much of what the NRA passes off as Obama's "10 Point Plan to 'Change' the Second Amendment" is actually contrary to what he has said throughout his campaign: that he "respects the constitutional rights of Americans to bear arms" and "will protect the rights of hunters and other law-abiding Americans to purchase, own, transport, and use guns."
The NRA, however, simply dismisses Obama's stated position as "rhetoric" and substitutes its own interpretation of his record as a secret "plan." Said an NRA spokesman: "We believe our facts."
Perhaps so, but believing something doesn't make it so. And we find the NRA has cherry-picked, twisted and misrepresented Obama's record to come up with a bogus "plan."
Update, Sept. 29: The Obama campaign asked broadcasters to take down ads from the NRA, citing this article and a separate Washington Post article that called the ads misleading. The NRA attacked us on its Web site, claiming that we are neither impartial nor independent. We respond in the Analysis section.
Obama lays out his basic stance on guns in a "Sportsmen" fact sheet and also in an "Urban Policy" paper on reducing gun violence. The NRA's claims find little support here.
Regarding a Constitutional right to guns, Obama says:
On the issue of urban policy, Obama says he favors "commonsense measures" to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and children, and that he would bring back the expired "assault weapon" ban and make it permanent:
Despite what Obama says, the NRA's material claims that he plans to take such extreme measures as to "ban use of firearms for home self defense" and "ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns." Where does the NRA come up with these? We contacted Andrew Arulanandam, the NRA's director of public affairs. He declined to speak to us except to say that the claims are based on Obama's voting record and statements he has made in the media. "We're comfortable with what we put on there," Arulanandam said. "We believe our facts."
The NRA's lobbying arm, the NRA Institute for Legislative Action, lists several such "facts" about Obama, including the 10 claims listed on the flier. The NRA-ILA brushes aside Obama's stated position. "Don't Believe Obama," it says. "Don’t listen to his campaign rhetoric! Look instead to what he has said and done during his entire political career."
Very well. Let's do that. What we find is that the NRA is often offering its own spin as Obama's "plan."
Out there in the desert, defeat was not an option. Sure, combat was hell, but on the frontline, I knew I served a real purpose. Defeating terrorism. Protecting our way of life. That's what it's all about. There's no way I'm voting for a president who will take that away.
The freedoms that I fought for and my friends died to defend. I served my country on the battlefield to protect our freedom. There's no way I'm voting for a president who will take them away.
Announcer: On November 4, defend freedom, defeat Obama. Get the facts at GunBanObama.com.
This falsehood from the "10 point plan" flier is repeated in a TV spot in which a man identified as Kurt Rusch, an Iraq war veteran says, "Obama opposes my right to own a gun for self-defense."
The NRA bases this overheated claim on a vote Obama cast on March 24, 2004, in the Illinois state Senate. He was one of 20 who opposed SB 2165. That bill, which passed 38 - 20 and became law, did not make it a crime to use firearms for self-defense, however. Rather, it created a loophole for persons caught violating local gun registration laws.
It states that in any Illinois municipality where gun registration is required it shall be an "affirmative defense" if the person accused of violating the registration requirement can show that the weapon was used "in an act of self-defense or defense of another ... when on his or her land or in his or her abode or fixed place of business."
Letting the owner of an unregistered firearm escape the penalty for failing to register is one thing, but it's another thing entirely to make it a crime to use any firearm – registered or not – in self-defense.
The bill came about after Hale DeMar, of Wilmette, Ill., shot a burglar who had invaded his home. At the time, Wilmette had an ordinance that prohibited owning handguns.
False: Obama is not proposing to ban hunting ammunition. And he did not, as claimed in an NRA TV spot featuring a Virginia hunter named Karl Rusch, vote to "ban virtually all deer hunting ammunition." What Obama voted for was a measure to ban "armor-piercing" ammunition, which the measure's sponsor has said repeatedly would not cover hunting ammunition.
This claim is based on Obama's vote on S. 397 in the U.S. Senate. Obama was one of 31 senators who voted in favor of S. Amdt. 1615 to S. 397 which sought to "expand the definition of armor piercing ammunition."
But it's not just new taxes that Barack Obama wants. If you can believe it, he also supports a ban on the shotguns and rifles that most of us use for hunting. No politician is going to take away my guns and ammo.
You don't have to be bitter to know that Barack Obama isn't the kind of change we need.
Announcer: On November 4th, defend freedom, defeat Obama. Get the facts at GunBanObama.com.
Chrissy
mom to Aidan 8/21/03
Grayson Blaine 12/30/07
A fetus/zygote/embreyo isn't a baby.
Kate
Mama to Savannah, Russell and Jackson
Have you bothered researching it? it was listed as an anti-semetic group by the ADL (Anti Defamation League in case you weren't aware) they also funded death squads in Central America WHILE HE WAS ON THE BOARD. He claims not to have known about the dealings of the group even tho he was ON THE BOARD but of course he can't be lying about that b/c he's not Obama. So no being anti communism isn't bad but do your research before you blow it off next time. Hence why I said to Google those names & that group. But since you apparently won't do that here are some links for you to see:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/10/mccain_link_to_private_group_i.php
Richard Quinn (SC white supremacist & employee/advisor of McCain): http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/15/85831/2516/354/457290 & http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=950DE6DD143EF93BA35751C0A9669C8B63
And do I really need to link about G. Gordon Liddy who McCain is "proud of"? Hmm may as well. http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/10/05/mccains-terror-connection-g-gordon-liddy/ and http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/05/g-gordon-liddy-john-mccai_n_100134.html Oh AND http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-oped0504chapmanmay04,0,6238795.column
There are more if you'd like me to get a list. So yes we can play the guilty by way of association bit too. It can go round & round & round. I am voting for Obama and you obviously have a grudge against him, so be it.
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