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Mon, 07-16-2012 - 10:30am

Are you serious????

This is where we are? The President of the United States makes this quote part of his reelection campaign?

America, if a majority buy into this, and do not reject it, the sun has set on us.

Sonny

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As far as factual news you are right.  It is very difficult to obtain good reporting any more.  A one or three minute sound bite on TV or vid is not enough to understand many of the issues.

  The political ads that use the opponent's comment's out of context or remove the factual complete saying for a edited one are cheating the public.

chaika

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Registered: 03-30-2007

Karl Rove and company have spent well over 90 million dollars on commercials.    By November 7 th, I will need a new remote control.   When ever a political commercial comes on, I change the channel, no matter who the commercial is for.    Living in Ohio is a challenge.

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I don't watch Fox. Come next week, am not sure there will be ANY television viewing at this house since Comcast jacked my rates up again. Enough is enough. Time to cut the cable......

Obama, in 2009, said that the U.S. under Bush had not appreciated Europe's leading role in global affairs. As with most Obama speeches, certain phrases were excerpted and used as stand-alone talking points by pundits. The whole speech was more nuanced and chided Europeans when they "blame America for much of what is bad." You can read more at http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/5100338/Barack-Obama-arrogant-US-has-been-dismissive-to-allies.html

Jabberwocka

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Registered: 01-21-2006

Your announcement doesn't rain on my parade or surprise me. He had been a life long democrat. According to him, his parents were also democrats. He re-registered in 2008  as an independent. His presidential voting record has no bearing on whether or not I like him or his music. It does perhaps show the difference between us.  Based on your post,  "Hate to rain on your parade, but Toby Keith voted for Obama.",  it sounds like that should be a deal breaker for me, presumably because it would be for you, but I am more tolerant of other's personal and political beliefs than to dismiss them because we don't have like political views. He's a patriot. He goes out of his way to honor those in our military and I respect him for that and I love his music.

 Here's a great article from CMT, though, http://www.cmt.com/news/country-music/1596198/toby-keith-registering-as-independent-voter.jhtml  It's a nice human interest piece and interview with Toby Keith.

 How do know who Keith voted for in 2008?  I've never read or heard that info divulged, but I haven't been looking for it, either.

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Knowing ZERO about me,don't ASSUME.   3/4 of my family are Republicans.   I liked Bob Hope.   Can't stand Ted Nugent.   He's out there.    Like Jim Tressel (head coach of Ohio State University).   Heck a friend of mine and school mate was a Republican state Representitive.  Now the State fire Marshall.   Many of my friends are Republicans.  

Toby Keith, himself, said he voted for Obama. 

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Are you saying that you think Toby Keith owes 'someone" an apology in regard to the Iraq war?  I'm pretty sure that he had nothing to do with the decision to go to war.

I'm repeating the same points, because the article still doesn't contain verifiable information.

"When AP hacks into other people's phone records, crime victims included, for the sake of tabloid titillation, when it manufactures crowd numbers to support movements it actively promotes, when those who lead the organization commit perjury, then it will have sunk to the level of NewsCorp"...............Noone is disputing that the AP is a legitimate source for the news and to my knowledge you didn't post a link to a NewsCorp article for me to read, so I am not sure why you keep comparing the two nor do I understand what NewsCorp has to do with the article you posted. However, in my opinion, even when reading an article from a "reputable" news source, the reader should measure for himself the level of factual, verifiable information against what he knows to be true, rather than fall prey to "believing everything he reads". 

In reference to the meaning of jingoistic:  I had not addressed the usage of that word in my original post, but came back and added the definition after my son read your post and said, "She is using the word jingoistic as though that's a bad thing.". I thought he made a pretty good point for a teenager, so I edited and added my remarks because I too, see nothing wrong with someone being "frantically patriotic".

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Here ya go.......

Apology- a verbal or written expression of regret or contrition for a fault or failing

 

Speech by President Obama, Rhenus Sports Arena, Strasbourg, France, April 3, 2009.

So we must be honest with ourselves. In recent years we've allowed our Alliance to drift. I know that there have been honest disagreements over policy, but we also know that there's something more that has crept into our relationship. In America, there's a failure to appreciate Europe's leading role in the world. Instead of celebrating your dynamic union and seeking to partner with you to meet common challenges, there have been times where America has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive

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"Toby Keith, himself, said he voted for Obama."

When?  I saw a couple of interviews with him, when his latest CD came out, but when asked that question, he wouldn't answer it.

shell

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Lol, There are some things I don't miss about Ohio.. BTW, Bill Cunningham has been getting a lot of air time on Fox news, He is another weird Republican!

 

 

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Registered: 03-30-2007

It's been a few years ago.  I think it was The View.   I knd of remember Elizabeth about swallowing her tongue.   I do remember laughing about it.