Immigration, again

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Immigration, again
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Wed, 09-08-2010 - 4:16am

This is a big article from the NY Times on immigration law enforcement. Apparently the Obama administration is doing quite a bit to tackle the problem, according to the snippets below. I also included a snippet about what happens when fake social security numbers are submitted to the IRS, since it has come up a few times.

"In April, Mr. Malecot, 58, was indicted by a federal grand jury on charges of illegally hiring 12 undocumented immigrants and, in what prosecutors portray as a brazen deception, continuing to employ them after learning that they were in the country illegally. He pleaded not guilty. Now, if convicted, he faces the possibility of forfeiture of the restaurant building, along with an adjacent rental property, Froggy’s Bar. Legal experts say it would be an exceptionally stiff punishment, but one that could be a sign of things to come for an industry that is one of the nation’s largest employers of immigrants."

"Under a policy that went into effect in April 2009, the Obama administration is taking a much tougher stance on employers who hire illegal immigrants than any administration in decades. Enforcement agents have subjected businesses across the country to much greater scrutiny, using tactics that were almost nonexistent until two years ago. Federal officials said they expected to announce record numbers of investigations and fines by the end of the year. As of July 31, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, an arm of the Department of Homeland Security, had announced investigations of 2,073 businesses so far this year, outpacing the 1,461 conducted in all of 2009."

"Out of a total of about 12.7 million workers in the restaurant industry, an estimated 1.4 million — both legal and illegal immigrants — are foreign born, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. According to 2008 estimates from the Pew Hispanic Center, about 20 percent of the nearly 2.6 million chefs, head cooks and cooks are illegal immigrants. Among the 360,000 dishwashers, 28 percent are undocumented, according to the estimates."

"According to the indictment, the business had already received what are known as “no match” letters from the Social Security Administration, saying that the Social Security numbers used by some employees were not valid. Those letters instruct employers not to take any action against the workers, but instead to resubmit valid numbers.

The indictment contends that Mr. Malecot then started paying those employees in cash, before Mr. Kauffmann and others submitted new Social Security numbers that they falsely certified as genuine. And the government says the French Gourmet went to great lengths to deceive the authorities — leading to felony charges of harboring immigrants, or concealing their illegal status."
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/08/dining/08crackdown.html?pagewanted=1&hp


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Wed, 09-08-2010 - 5:48am
I agree that cracking down on employers is a GREAT thing, problem is they aren't deporting the ILLEGALS that they find there as well.


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Wed, 09-08-2010 - 5:58am
I didn't catch where it said that they were not taking steps to deport the illegals. Either way though, the crux is going after the employers, IMO.

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Wed, 09-08-2010 - 11:59am

Yes...deportations are up under Obama:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/25/AR2010072501790.html

Deportation of illegal immigrants increases under Obama administration

By Peter Slevin
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, July 26, 2010

In a bid to remake the enforcement of federal immigration laws, the Obama administration is deporting record numbers of illegal immigrants and auditing hundreds of businesses that blithely hire undocumented workers.

The Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency expects to deport about 400,000 people this fiscal year, nearly 10 percent above the Bush administration's 2008 total and 25 percent more than were deported in 2007. The pace of company audits has roughly quadrupled since President George W. Bush's final year in office. >>>full article at the link above

PLUS Obama is using yet another program to discourage employers and would-be illegal immigrants:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/10/us/10enforce.html?_r=1

Illegal Workers Swept From Jobs in ‘Silent Raids’

By JULIA PRESTON
Published: July 9, 2010

BREWSTER, Wash. — The Obama administration has replaced immigration raids at factories and farms with a quieter enforcement strategy: sending federal agents to scour companies’ records for illegal immigrant workers.

While the sweeps of the past commonly led to the deportation of such workers, the “silent raids,” as employers call the audits, usually result in the workers being fired, but in many cases they are not deported.

Over the past year, Immigration and Customs Enforcement has conducted audits of employee files at more than 2,900 companies. The agency has levied a record $3 million in civil fines so far this year on businesses that hired unauthorized immigrants, according to official figures. Thousands of those workers have been fired, immigrant groups estimate.

Employers say the audits reach more companies than the work-site roundups of the administration of President George W. Bush. The audits force businesses to fire every suspected illegal immigrant on the payroll— not just those who happened to be on duty at the time of a raid — and make it much harder to hire other unauthorized workers as replacements. Auditing is “a far more effective enforcement tool,” said Mike Gempler, executive director of the Washington Growers League, which includes many worried fruit growers.

Immigration inspectors who pored over the records of one of those growers, Gebbers Farms, found evidence that more than 500 of its workers, mostly immigrants from Mexico, were in the country illegally. In December, Gebbers Farms, based in this Washington orchard town, fired the workers.

“Instead of hundreds of agents going after one company, now one agent can go after hundreds of companies,” said Mark K. Reed, president of Border Management Strategies, a consulting firm in Tucson that advises companies across the country on immigration law. “And there is no drama, no trauma, no families being torn apart, no handcuffs.”

President Obama, in a speech last week, explained a two-step immigration policy. He promised tough enforcement against illegal immigration, in workplaces and at the border, saying it would prepare the way for a legislative overhaul to give legal status to millions of illegal immigrants already in the country. White House officials say the enforcement is under way, but they acknowledge the overhaul is unlikely to happen this year.

In another shift, the immigration agency has moved away from bringing criminal charges against immigrant workers who lack legal status but have otherwise clean records. >>>full article at the link above

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Wed, 09-08-2010 - 12:07pm
Company Audits Up, Illegal Worker Arrests Way Down Since 2008



Published August 23, 2010



| FoxNews.com





The Obama administration said it would focus its enforcement of illegal immigration laws by targeting workplace activities, but a recent report shows that while audits of employers are slightly up over the Bush administration, worker arrests are down drastically since the end of 2008.


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Wed, 09-08-2010 - 12:53pm

And yet...Obama is deporting far more illegal immigrants than his predecessor. Plus, company audits make it much, much more difficult for companies to hire illegals. Illegal immigrant population has decreased.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/01/AR2010090106940.html

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The number of illegal immigrants entering the United States plunged by almost two-thirds between 2005 and 2009, a dramatic shift after years of growth in the population, according to the report.

In the first half of the decade, an average of 850,000 people a year entered the United States without authorization, according to the report, released Wednesday. As the economy plunged into recession between 2007 and 2009, that number fell to 300,000.

The drop has contributed to an 8 percent decrease in the estimated number of illegal immigrants living in the United States, from a peak of 12 million in 2007 to 11.1 million in 2009, the report said. Of the 11.1 million, 60 percent came from Mexico, 20 percent from other parts of Latin America, 11 percent from Asia, and 8 percent from Africa, Europe, Canada and elsewhere. The new figures come amid a heated national debate over efforts by Arizona and other jurisdictions to identify people who are here illegally and push to have them deported. >>>>

As I've repeatedly written. When the jobs dry up for whatever reason, the illegal immigrants will cease to come her or will leave. Let's keep making it painful/difficult for employers. Maybe they won't offer those jobs. Let's deport as many illegal immigrants as we can.

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Wed, 09-08-2010 - 1:12pm
Why not deport the employees they KNOW are there when they go after the employers?


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Wed, 09-08-2010 - 1:31pm

I think that the deportation procedure is a major issue, because it isn't as simple as "rounding 'em up" and putting them on a bus out of town.

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Wed, 09-08-2010 - 1:59pm
You are not answering my questions....changing the immigration topic isn't what I was asking.








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Wed, 09-08-2010 - 2:25pm
I did answer. You asked why they don't deport them. I posted about how a contested deportment can take 5 years, during which time the worker can go back to work, get a drivers' license, etc. Deportation is not merely putting somebody on a bus and waving "goodbye." Instead, a worker can get an immigration lawyer (pro bono in many cases) who will get him/her out of jail so that they can return to their job(s), get a driver's license, and generally, thumb their noses at our weak, inefficient immigration laws. If it was as simple as rounding them up and putting them on the bus, we'd have done it long ago.
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Wed, 09-08-2010 - 2:30pm

Nope, from my article:



But under President Obama, the numbers of arrests and deportations of illegals taken into custody at work sites plummeted by more than 80 percent from the last year of the Bush administration.


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