Intelligent Design?

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Intelligent Design?
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Sun, 08-31-2008 - 11:09am
Are you concerned about a potential vice president that supports teaching the idea of intelligent design side by side with evolution? I have tried to look into it since hearing that Sarah Palin supports both being taught and I confess I am deeply troubled. Maybe someone could enlighten me but I definitely do not what my children taught that 'intelligent design' as scientific fact. I live in an area where religion is already dangerously encroaching on public education and this bothers me. My religious beliefs are personal and I am tired of people telling me that I should believe what they believe - everyone seems to think their religion is 'the one' without allowing that I may feel the same about mine. Maybe someone can enlighten me - but this idea really concerns me. I know vice presidents don't make policy - but should something happen to McCain this woman would be president.

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Mon, 09-01-2008 - 12:05pm
Well, lets see, since GWB we have NCLB and science is a tested subject in my state. So far intelligent design is not part of the state curriculum so having a child answer an essay question with a creationist response would score a big fat zero - you cannot equate what the medical profession does to treat a patient with what a teacher must teach in a classroom. Enron had some interesting math in their accounting department but I definitely would not teach it in my math class! Although I must confess I do use Enron as a negative example - LOL

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Mon, 09-01-2008 - 12:05pm

>>I agree.

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Mon, 09-01-2008 - 12:10pm
In nursing your interventions also have to have been proved to work and be approved by NIC/NOC, they are based upon evidence and western medicine is beginning to study eastern medicine and trying to find the links. We cannot just pull something out of our hats to use, we respect other people's cultures and encourage them to utilize their belief system to assist in the healing process but we don't sit over their beds in a prayer circle... so give me a break please. Don't use your belief system to make nurses sound like non-scientific witch doctors please. We have fought for a long time to be taken seriously as a serious part of the medical team and just because our part is different than the medicine part and it does look at the whole person, physical, emotional, and spiritual we use scientifically proven methods to treat people. So please don't take us back years.
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Mon, 09-01-2008 - 12:11pm
I vote that in California we teach the Native American creation story that says the world use to be on the back of a turtle because it explains earthquakes - then in the mountain states we can teach the Native American story that a great wolf was the creator of the world because there are wolves there. Now I am wondering what the Native Americans of my area believed in - such a shame that the good God-fearing citizens of years ago had them packed up and moved out :(

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Mon, 09-01-2008 - 12:17pm

>>The same should fall with discussions in the classroom.<<


And how do you propose the science teacher deal with such discussion?

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Mon, 09-01-2008 - 12:20pm

Its turtles, all the way down!


My 7th grade son has already decided that if folks start talking about religion in his science class (evolution is covered in grade 7 in CA) he is going to insist on this creation story being discussed too.


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Mon, 09-01-2008 - 12:23pm
Good for him, if we are going to represent, lets represent! Lets take a whole week out of science class and talk about all the different creation stories from all the different cultures. Or maybe we could stick to science. But seriously, good for him and I hope he does.
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Mon, 09-01-2008 - 12:25pm
LOL - when I taught elementary school we did a Native American section in our reading and I really enjoyed the discussion of Native American creationist stories - never once lead to a discussion of intelligent design!

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Mon, 09-01-2008 - 1:12pm

"you cannot equate what the medical profession does to treat a patient with what a teacher must teach in a classroom"


The topic of nursing came up b/c a previous poster brought up nursing and hard science (which nursing is not).

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Mon, 09-01-2008 - 1:20pm


"Since we can't prove them scientifically should we not use them?!? Of course not! The same should fall with discussions in the classroom. In nursing you are taught to treat the whole person.....why can that not be that way elsewhere?"

This is the post I was referring to - the author of the post questioned why nursing and teaching couldn't be treated the same way. My post attempted to address her argument - sorry if I wasn't clear. Teachers are responsible for teaching the subject they are hired to teach - in other words science teachers do not teach religion.

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