Intelligent Design?

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Intelligent Design?
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Sun, 08-31-2008 - 11:09am
Are you concerned about a potential vice president that supports teaching the idea of intelligent design side by side with evolution? I have tried to look into it since hearing that Sarah Palin supports both being taught and I confess I am deeply troubled. Maybe someone could enlighten me but I definitely do not what my children taught that 'intelligent design' as scientific fact. I live in an area where religion is already dangerously encroaching on public education and this bothers me. My religious beliefs are personal and I am tired of people telling me that I should believe what they believe - everyone seems to think their religion is 'the one' without allowing that I may feel the same about mine. Maybe someone can enlighten me - but this idea really concerns me. I know vice presidents don't make policy - but should something happen to McCain this woman would be president.

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Mon, 09-01-2008 - 2:37pm
Actually no.....things like accupuncture, massage, prayer, etc. work on some people but not on others...and there are no scientific reasons why they should work.
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Mon, 09-01-2008 - 3:02pm

"Yes but the original post was in response to Mrs. Palin's statement that both should be 'taught side by side' which is different than just allowing a discussion."


And it was shown that the OP was a small snippet of her full thoughts.

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Mon, 09-01-2008 - 3:04pm

"Actually no.....things like accupuncture, massage, prayer, etc. work on some people but not on others...and there are no scientific reasons why they should work.

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Mon, 09-01-2008 - 4:21pm
I agree - I think I had already stated that I had no problem with it being taught as part of a social studies class where all beliefs were given coverage - my concern is with teaching it alongside evolution as science which has already come up as an issue in school districts around the country. Some areas have pushed to have id included in science text books - that is what I am opposed to. Discuss it all you want in social studies as long as you discuss other religions or in a religion class - just not science.

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Mon, 09-01-2008 - 4:27pm
Oh good....now I think I gotcha....and I agree.
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Mon, 09-01-2008 - 4:39pm

think if it comes up, it should be allowed for discussion. Last year my oldest dd was learning about the beliefs of egyptions and cavemen.....they have often discussed beliefs of native americans



In a mythology class.... yes
In a comparative religion class .... absolutely
In a SCIENCE class...No... supposed to be teaching science, NOT religion.

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Mon, 09-01-2008 - 4:45pm
I am not saying things like that do not work, but 1, we (as nurses) do not do those interventions with the possible exception of massage and if you are so inclined prayer, and 2, I was addressing the insinuation that we do not use evidence based interventions. I think many of those things will be used more the future, as I addressed in my post, there is a big movement to combine western medicine and eastern medicine. But it will be done using evidence based research. But nursing is science, just because we accept and treat the whole person, not just the disease, in no way reduces the practice. Yes, there is variations in patients and how they respond to all interventions both eastern and western, but that doesn't mean they are not studied and evidence based.
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Mon, 09-01-2008 - 4:55pm
I wouldn't go that far as she seems to think the discussion is ok in science - which is my personal sticking point. I don't agree with her on most of the few issues she has taken a stand on so far anyway. I'm sure she is a very nice woman, I just don't want her as a VP or as President.

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Mon, 09-01-2008 - 5:08pm

"she seems to think the discussion is ok in science - "


I will give you that I COULD be wrong on this...but I don't ever recall her saying "science" specifically.

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Mon, 09-01-2008 - 6:16pm

OK maybe I am assuming science because of the whole 'teach them side by side' thing - where else would you teach evolution but in science?

As to other issues - admittedly the record is slim to nearly non-existent. I am pro-choice - she stated somewhere - can't find it right now but I thought I bookmarked it - that she was for overturning Roe V Wade which has implications beyond the abortion debate. She has moved to prevent polar bears from being placed on the endangered species list, and she is a big NRA supporter. That is enough for me right now - I am sure there will be more, but even if there isn't I was never really comfortable with McCain either - the whole supported Bush 95% of the time given that I have NEVER be for Bush is a real turn off.

I confess I am not totally happy with the choices we are left with this time around.

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