It's now ok to strip Grandma for any infraction

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Registered: 04-09-2006
It's now ok to strip Grandma for any infraction
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Mon, 04-02-2012 - 7:30pm

More proof that the conservatives won't stop until they have implemented a police state:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/03/us/justices-approve-strip-searches-for-any-offense.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1&hp

Sickening.

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iVillage Member
Registered: 04-09-2006
Wrong. The Supreme Court case was about a man who was jailed because he hadn't paid a fine...only he had. So an innocent person was strip searched and jailed.

I wouldn't have a problem with strip searches if one couldn't be jailed for misdemeanors. The city jail in a nearby town is regularly filled with college kids caught for minor offenses, when the city police do surprise sweeps of the dorms on nights that kids are likely to be doing underage drinking and the like. Misdemeanors. Strip search. Jail. From what I see on the internet, my area of the country is not the only one where local law enforcement uses methods which, if not strictly illegal, have more to do with filling for profit prisons than actually improving public safety.
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Registered: 01-08-2009
I don't think you can take someone to jail for an infraction. Even most misdemeanors are cite & release.
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Registered: 04-09-2006
You must have nicer police where you live. The other day a friend was stopped for - get this - the officer claimed he had to check to see if her factory tinted windows were too dark. She could have been taken to jail and strip searched at the officer's whim.
iVillage Member
Registered: 04-11-2012

Another reason to never commit a crime ; ) I agree with the strip searches. Keeping people safe in the prison is extremely hard to do. Whatever helps to keep the jail population and correction officers safe is okay with me. I watch crime TV and have seen where people commit some crimes to get into jail in order to kill someone. If this saves one life it's worth it.

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Registered: 04-09-2011
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Registered: 04-09-2011

It troubles me this vote was 5-4, and it carries a political feel to it. Yes, there is a need to protect from introduction of contraband, and in general, *all* who are consigned to a prison will undergo a strip search. It's already SOP.

IMO, there needs to be stringent guidelines, followed. To give carte blanche license... the court in general doesn't care much about those incarcerated. Federal law stipulates 54 days a year good time, but the BOP only gives 47, and the court upheld that shortage. I don't buy it, just as I don't buy privatised prisons, or the focus on punishment over education. The vast majority of these folks will one day be out, and I damn well want to see them ready to function as law abiding citizens, and right now we aren't taking that approach. This ruling is one more vague rule where there needs clear definition of purpose and procedure.

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Registered: 04-09-2006

I live in a place where (thanks to calls for law and order) law enforcement has run amok.

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Registered: 08-16-2005
“Every detainee who will be admitted to the general population may be required to undergo a close visual inspection while undressed,” Justice Kennedy wrote, adding that about 13 million people are admitted each year to the nation’s jails."

I am not scared. To be admitted into the general population of a jail is how the justices see the law. The title and some examples are just too extreme for me. I believe this protects the greater good.

I also don't mind the scans at airports...I have been through them and it is what it is. If I want to fly that's the process..

If they did something illegal to you I would report it.


iVillage Member
Registered: 04-09-2006

From the article:

"According to opinions in the lower courts, people may be strip-searched after arrests for violating a leash law, driving without a license and failing to pay child support. Citing examples from briefs submitted to the Supreme Court, Justice Breyer wrote that people have been subjected to “the humiliation of a visual strip-search” after being arrested for driving with a noisy muffler, failing to use a turn signal and riding a bicycle without an audible bell."

This is jail, not prison.

iVillage Member
Registered: 04-09-2011

A significant amount of contraband in a prison comes from those who work there - they make money on the side, especially with cell phones.

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