its your decision?

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Mon, 09-08-2008 - 8:42am
I already knew Obama was pro-choice, that's why I can't vote for him, I believe the willful and intentional killing of an innocent life is morally wrong and I can't support/vote for anyone who condones abortion as a means of birth control. What I DIDN'T know is that Obama is not only an abortion extremist, but he support partial birth abortion. WHO in their right mind supports partial birth abortion? Abortion is one evil, but partial birth abortion (PBA) is another evil altogether. Who wouldn't vote yes on a ban for PBA? To half-deliver a baby and then suck their brains out.... hellooo? That's a no brainer! (pun intended). You don't half-deliver a baby and mash their brain up. People are known to vomit when they witness a procedure, some people can't even read through a description of the gruseome details. 80% of America is against PBA.
First, look at this quote:
"Look, I got two daughters — 9 years old and 6 years old,” he said. “I am going to teach them first about values and morals, but if they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.” Punished! Punished with a baby. Since when were babies punishment? That's a nice attitude to have.
I was all over the internet on various sites, reading news articles and doing research, but I think you can find most of the relevant information right here:http://obamawantsyou.
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By the way, Obama reveals his deceptiveness and/or ignorance with his ads trying to say that McCain will make abortion illegal. But overturning Roe doesn’t make abortion illegal. It returns the power to the states - to the people - and lets them decide.

His excuse for voting "no" on a ban for PBA was because the language of the bill was close to eliminating a woman's right to choose and he says the health of the woman is more important. How could killing the child after it's already been delivered be any health risk to the mother? The baby has already gestated for many, many weeks (and in some cases PBA’s have been performed on the day the baby was due), and has already been delivered, ALIVE (up until that “doctor” sucks its brains out). The only damage that could be done to the mother at that point is the crippling emotional damage she will suffer after the procedure is done. Also, his wife wrote a fundraising letter to gain support that partial birth abortion is a legitimate medical procedure.

This is an account written by a registered nurse named Brenda Pratt Shafer after she was assigned to an abortion clinic. She thought she was pro-choice until she witnessed this: "I stood at the doctor's side and watched him perform a partial-birth abortion on a woman who was six months pregnant. The baby's heartbeat was clearly visible on the ultrasound screen. The doctor delivered the baby's body and arms, everything but his little head. The baby's body was moving. His little fingers were clasping together. He was kicking his feet. The doctor took a pair of scissors and inserted them into the back of the baby's head, and the baby's arms jerked out in a flinch, a startle reaction, like a baby does when he thinks that he might fall. Then the doctor opened the scissors up. Then he stuck the high-powered suction tube into the hole and sucked the baby's brains out. Now the baby was completely limp. I never went back to the clinic. But I am still haunted by the face of that little boy. It was the most perfect, angelic face I have ever seen." I felt like I had to spread the word because I can't stand the thought of a man who is OK with this being our commander in chief! So if you are voting for Obama as a "lesser of two evils" you might want to think again. Supporting such a hideous procedure is unreal.
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Mon, 09-08-2008 - 11:17am

Just curious - are you stating that Obama supports partial-birth abortions b/c of his opposition to the Illinois Induced Birth Infant Liability Act (similar to the federal born alive act)?


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Chrissy
mom to Aidan 8/21/03
Grayson Blaine 12/30/07

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Mon, 09-08-2008 - 11:32am
no sorry i should of stated that but
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Mon, 09-08-2008 - 12:09pm

I'm sorry, but I'm still trying to figure out from where you're drawing the conclusion that Obama supports infantcide.


Chrissy
mom to Aidan 8/21/03
Grayson Blaine 12/30/07

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Mon, 09-08-2008 - 12:20pm

No. "to me thats like saying, "ok my child who is only 12

We can only be said to be alive in those moments when our hearts are conscious of our treasures. 

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Mon, 09-08-2008 - 12:48pm

There is NO way that equates to abortion.

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Mon, 09-08-2008 - 1:10pm

The Intact D&X discussion needs to be separate.

We can only be said to be alive in those moments when our hearts are conscious of our treasures. 

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Mon, 09-08-2008 - 1:34pm

Thanks for sharing that.

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Mon, 09-08-2008 - 1:47pm

like mom_dragonfly said it is all in how you see it and all in how you believe it. everyone can go around and around and around time and time again on where they stand on this and that is what is so amazing about it how there is SO much gray, there really is no black or white when i comes to a subject like this, on the other side of the scale is it ok to make man made life? (not meaning to start another dicussion)


i have started the going to the abortion board and it is a wonderful place full of wonderful women.


Throughout all the debating and all the discussions the real thing that i like to is the fact that we as women are giving our opinion and in full force!!

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