knjess: slippery slope

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knjess: slippery slope
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Tue, 09-16-2008 - 12:36pm

I mean this in an amicable way - and anyone can chime in. but i address it to knjess because she mentioned it elsewhere.

i am worried about reproductive rights; you are worried about gun rights. i am opposed to limits on abortion because i fear it will lead to total elimination of access to services; you are opposed to limits on guns because you fear it will lead to total elimination of access to guns. but neither of us believes in or participates in the extremes of our positions. i am personally opposed to late term abortion except when medically necessary for the life of the mother; you are personally opposed to ... some big gun I've never seen.

my question is: if we weren't so worried about the total restriction of our rights - if we could trust that some rights could be limited without the danger of giving up all rights - if someone could draw a clear line - what would our votes look like then?

maybe that's another way of asking, where do the people vote who want you to have your handgun for personal protection and your rifle for hunting and who also want access to the morning-after pill?

just wondering ...
Bea

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Tue, 09-16-2008 - 1:22pm

I told someone the other day I wished there was a 3rd party ... one that meets in the middle so to speak.

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Tue, 09-16-2008 - 1:49pm

Here's my take, I think it is possible to place reasonable restrictions of access to guns without violating the right to gun ownership.

 


 


I disagree with you, but I'm pretty sure

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Tue, 09-16-2008 - 2:09pm


MONTANA MOM !

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Tue, 09-16-2008 - 2:27pm

no it's not simple. the republicans want to be in your life just as much as the democrats don't. that's a silly and overblown statement. with the exception of a few whackos on each side, nobody really wants to be your Big Brother - that's a scare tactic.

if we could stop saying those ridiculous things it would help in rational discussions.

knjess, you are smarter than that.

Bea.

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Tue, 09-16-2008 - 2:29pm
I don't think you're so much the topic as something you said made Bea think of this question ;-)

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Tue, 09-16-2008 - 2:43pm

nothing truly personal. made me this of this because i have very close friends with whom i NEVER discuss these topics. i suspect they probably wouldn't agree with me, which is why we never do. although we agree on many other things.

Bea

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Tue, 09-16-2008 - 2:58pm

Actually, bea, you've hit on a key point:


with the exception of a few whackos on each side, nobody really wants to be your Big Brother


The problem is that to a large extent, both parties have been captured by their fringe.

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Tue, 09-16-2008 - 3:18pm


MONTANA MOM !

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Tue, 09-16-2008 - 3:30pm

I think that in today's political climate, it seems that the political parties are becoming closer and closer to the same thing and it makes it hard to differentiate between the Republicans and Democrats.. especially when the discussion dissolves into a he said/she said scenario. The Republicans have always been about smaller government, lower government spending, lower taxes and I've always been a Republican, but I am for the first time considering changing my affiliation because the party as it now stands is not what it once was. The party has lost sight of it's conservative "small government" values. I'm with you knjess, I want government to stay the heck out of my business, let me keep my money and take care of my family in the way I see fit, but I'm just not sure the Republican party is the crusader for our point of view anymore. However, I also think the Democratic party has now changed and is moving ever closer to the center, which is why I think it's actually pretty funny to hear the pundits going after each other's throats when, from my perspective, they are growing ever closer together.

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Tue, 09-16-2008 - 5:03pm

i'm sorry K.

i do think it's important to hear both sides. which is why i did not go to the liberal mom board. i could listen to Air American if that's what i wanted. this board makes me think and makes me work on answers and that's a good thing. it makes me admit that people on "my side" do and say stupid things. and it makes me realize why the stupid things on the "other side" make me so mad.

yes after all the yelling, my inner mommy says "is it really that bad? is it really that hopeless?"

it's important for me to know the answer is "no, the American voter is not hopeless." and that even opposing points of view often agree.

so i hope you don't mind that i used you in the title. i think we are on the same slippery slope.

Bea




Edited 9/17/2008 10:25 pm ET by queenbea4

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