Last night's Bush/ Kerry debate?

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Last night's Bush/ Kerry debate?
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Fri, 10-01-2004 - 5:08pm

Given that I work here, I can't take a partisan stand, but I wanted to hear what you thought of the debate. The polls I've seen say that Kerry won hands down.

Susan Hahn
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Registered: 03-19-2003
Mon, 10-04-2004 - 1:22pm
Hi Sandy Welcome to the board!
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Registered: 03-26-2003
Mon, 10-04-2004 - 1:32pm
I think you are not alone. I am most decidedly NOT on the fence. I want Bush out of office as fast as possible. My mother is a Republican and while she is not impressed with Kerry, she's *completely* disgusted with Bush. I really think she is in a quandry as to how to vote.

KJ

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Mon, 10-04-2004 - 1:37pm
Kerry won. He was clear, concise and strong. Bush does well when he has a script, when his audience is already *for* him and cheers everytime he burps, and when he's popping out sound bites. In an actual debate that required coherence, thinking on his feet and making an intelligent case for his actions, he flopped. His petulance was readily apparent and he repeated his standard lines ad nauseum.

I hope Kerry can keep up the momentum. We'll have to see.

KJ

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Mon, 10-04-2004 - 1:52pm
"Bush has NEVER been willing to admit that mistakes were made. At all! Bush's "position" is so absurd to me because he not only lacks a plan, but his entire justification for going forward is to "stay the course" - however inappropriate that course may be. "

The irony there, too, is how much his backers discuss "personal responsibility" I guess that's applies to everyone *else* and not him.

I really liked what Kerry said about 'Certainty.'

KJ

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Registered: 03-25-2003
Mon, 10-04-2004 - 1:55pm

If I remember correctly, wasn't Bush the one who decided AGAINST the UN when the decision to go to War was made.

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Registered: 03-25-2003
Mon, 10-04-2004 - 2:00pm

His plan is to try and involve the UN in the war on Iraq which means allowing other countries to bring in some of their forces, some of their money and also allow them to help re-build, train and otherwise send Iraq off into democracy.

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Mon, 10-04-2004 - 5:18pm

I just hope the American people are smart enough to see through a good performance and analyze the real issues.

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Mon, 10-04-2004 - 5:21pm
See I am not sure I believe any of that as truth or if that's just Kerry propaganda so to speak ... I have a hard time believing that Bush won't accept other troops or the help of other countries.

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Mon, 10-04-2004 - 6:02pm
My understanding of how this came to be is that 1) Bush wanted to rush into war and didn't want to wait for the other countries to continue inspections, diplomacy, etc. 2) The other countries aren't particularly willing to send troops because of the way Bush handled things (see #1) and 3) Bush isn't willing to share the contracts (ie/big $$$ for road building, infrastructure etc.) with the other countries and since they weren't going to get any of the "spoils" they didn't want to commit troops.

I think Kerry has made some really strong points in the debates regarding much of this but he didn't really have time to elaborate on how or why the other countries would be willing to get in there once he is in office. IMHO, a fresh start really WILL bring new credibility for the USA with these other countries. Especially given Kerry's expertise in diplomacy (not exactly Bush's strong suit).

One of the reasons I think Bush has been ahead in the race thus far is that he is an expert in propaganda. I think Kerry's propensity toward thoughtful deliberation and integrity has actually been a liability in campaigning. It's sad to me that I am actually typing that, but well, thinking things over carefully and deliberately doesn't exact lend itself to 30 second sound bytes.

Carrie


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Registered: 03-26-2003
Mon, 10-04-2004 - 6:32pm

What do you know about the Oil for Food scandal?


Are you aware of the billions of dollars in kickbacks/contracts received by the French and particularly the Russian governments (not to mention several other countries- I can find you the list easily enough) from Saddam Hussein through the Oil- for- Food program?

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