Last night's Bush/ Kerry debate?

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Registered: 03-10-2003
Last night's Bush/ Kerry debate?
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Fri, 10-01-2004 - 5:08pm

Given that I work here, I can't take a partisan stand, but I wanted to hear what you thought of the debate. The polls I've seen say that Kerry won hands down.

Susan Hahn
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Registered: 04-30-2004
Mon, 10-04-2004 - 10:43pm


Voting against the funding was a protest vote because of the lies Bush told to get us into Iraq. Kerry knew the funding would go through easily regardless. In general, a good politician knows the outcome of the vote before the vote goes through. He knew the troops would be supported. He was only making a point with his vote. The point was: "Don't lie to us, get us in trouble and then force us to pay for your mistake."
Peggy

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Registered: 04-30-2004
Mon, 10-04-2004 - 10:46pm


Kinda hard to ask for help after you've shot your mouth off don't you think? That's exactly what Bush did.
Peggy

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Registered: 04-30-2004
Mon, 10-04-2004 - 10:48pm


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Bush isn't stupid but he isn't an expert on anything that I can see. The propaganda credit goes to the snake named Karl Rove. A guy that bugged his own office to win an election. He's a sad sack. There is a special place for him, I tell ya the guy is no good.

Peggy

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Registered: 04-30-2004
Mon, 10-04-2004 - 10:58pm


Hmmmm. Oil for food. Huh? Yeah. I've heard of it. It's a UN program that 100's of countries support. If the Oil-for-food coutnries were getting kickbacks why didn't all of the major UN supporters not want to go into Iraq? Russia and the French were specifically picked out of the group? The US approved of the program including many, many, many other countries. Give me a break. Have you been listening to some whacked out extermists or what???


Here's a brief description of Oil-for-food:

Origins: In August 1990 the Security Council adopted resolution 661, imposing comprehensive sanctions on Iraq following that country’s invasion of Kuwait. In the immediate aftermath of the Gulf War in 1991, the Secretary-General dispatched an inter-agency mission to assess the humanitarian needs arising in Iraq and Kuwait. The mission visited Iraq from 10 to 17 March 1991 and reported that "the Iraqi people may soon face a further imminent catastrophe, which could include epidemic and famine, if massive life-supporting needs are not rapidly met." (S/22366, para. 37). Throughout 1991, with growing concern over the humanitarian situation in the country, the United Nations proposed measures to enable Iraq to sell limited quantities of oil to meet its people's needs. The Government of Iraq declined these offers, contained in particular, in resolutions 706 (1991) and 712 (1991), adopted, respectively, in August and September 1991.

Implementation: There are nine United Nations agencies and organizations involved in the programme. They are: FAO, UNESCO, WHO, ITU, UNICEF, UNDP, WFP, UNOPS, UN-Habitat.



Yeah, that UNICEF (child's rights organization), really sinister (can you see the dripping sarcasm??)

Peggy

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Registered: 03-19-2003
Mon, 10-04-2004 - 11:15pm
So glad to have you with us!!
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Registered: 03-25-2003
Tue, 10-05-2004 - 7:06am
The point Kerry succeeded in making was:"I don't give a dam# about the troops." If the point is to protest the war, why take it out on the warriors? I am sorry but I am not buying the line of bull that it was a protest vote, unless he is psychic he can't predict the outcome of a vote. Furthermore that is a really stupid way to make a statement in support of the warriors,period.~Lisa
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Registered: 03-25-2003
Tue, 10-05-2004 - 7:16am
I suppose you have proof that Bush lied? From something other than an op-ed spin piece? Bush made certain decisions based on what intelligence told him, that's different than outright lying about something. Not being able to foresee the future does not make one a liar.

The tax cuts happened to help my family, imagine that. You know on one hand some democrats b!tch incessantly about the economy, but if the President tries to help big businesses that supply a lot of jobs(helping the economy) people accuse him of helping the rich, you really can't always have it both ways you know.

The President gave a tax cut during war but your man Kerry voted for cutting aid to troops during war, how smart is that?~Lisa

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Registered: 04-05-2003
Tue, 10-05-2004 - 8:21am

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Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that.

"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have. The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases." - Thomas Jeff

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Registered: 04-05-2003
Tue, 10-05-2004 - 8:30am

She's not talking about the Oil for Food program, she's talking about the massive corruption within the program.

"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have. The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases." - Thomas Jeff

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Registered: 03-25-2003
Tue, 10-05-2004 - 9:18am

Uh, lisa....intellegence reports came back that it is highly doubtful Iraq or

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