Let's Beat Up on Conservatives!

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Let's Beat Up on Conservatives!
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Wed, 06-25-2008 - 2:36pm

Hey -- I have an idea. Most of y'all dislike the few of us conservatives SO MUCH...how about you just let loose here and let us have it?


I'm pretty sure we can take it.


MySweetPerm

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Thu, 06-26-2008 - 11:40am

I've never seen that to be true - it seems that there are just as many extreme pundits to the right if not more than to the left in many arenas. And whether you are on this debate board or watching the news conservatives seem to have no problem having their voices heard (and they shouldn't have problems, everyone should be heard).

And many of those that are labeled as being to the left (by conservatives) in reality are center moderates that do not really represent a truly leftist mentality. Although people like Rush Limbaugh (sp?) are household names, I can't think of a pundit that is equally as far left as he is right that is nearly as well known.

I think (IMHO of course ;) many conservatives perceive anything that is not completely inline with ALL of their values to be liberal. Where as someone like me perceives many people labeled as liberal to in actual policy and platforms to be moderate centrists Democrats. People who actually hold really leftist views are often discounted as extremist and many won't even admit there is any value to their opinions.

Of course all of this is MHO so I in no way am trying to insult anyone (you always have to be careful on the internet as tone is hard to project) so I hope no one takes offense - just debating my side on a debate board :)

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Thu, 06-26-2008 - 11:46am

lol I think that most posters are so used to seeing Conservatives not speaking up that when they do.. it looks like it leans right.


Oh Janet - Come On!

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Thu, 06-26-2008 - 11:55am

Well, I guess it just illustrates that people will see what they want to...not necessarily the reality.

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Thu, 06-26-2008 - 12:05pm
I don't think you need to insult my opinion (implying I am unable to see "the reality" is pretty judgmental). After all we all have different realities that are shaped by our own unique experiences, so me not seeing things your way is just that, not an inability on my part to be realistic. As I said it is JUST my opinion as is yours. I think I have more than stated that what I perceive as liberal is probably far different than what others do. And perception is just that, but not a litmus test on someones ability to come to terms with what is realistic.
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Thu, 06-26-2008 - 12:34pm

"After all we all have different realities that are shaped by our own unique experiences, so me not seeing things your way is just that, not an inability on my part to be realistic."

First of all...it wasn't an insult, sorry you took it that way. But it's been said here before that we all see what we WANT to see from time to time.

The fact of the matter is, you can look throughout the board postings and actually COUNT who is on what side of the fence and you'll see that it isn't as imbalanced as you perceive it to be. Your *perception* of things does NOT negate the *reality* of things. Just like the OP was told no one is beating up on anyone (a statement which I wholeheartedly agree with), I'm saying there is no conservative lean on this board. Just ask Rose, Michelle, Lisa, Mountain Laurel, amd, Currie (I know that's not the exact handle), Jen (that's eight just off the top of my head, not including yourself...sorry if there are any other regulars I've forgotten!).

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Thu, 06-26-2008 - 1:57pm

Sorry if I read more into your words than was there.

I guess what I am trying to say which maybe I haven't said extremely clearly - and I apologize for that - is that the "left" side of this board isn't all that left - it's pretty mainstream Democrat - which is fine. The original post just made me giggle, because overall the discussions just don't bend way to the left IMHO (and I have been lurking for awhile so I have read through numerous posts ;).

There may be different sides of "the fence" (as you put it) represented, but again IMHO there are more varying degrees of conservatism (i.e. christian conservative, fiscal conservative, libretarian conservatives, etc.) represented here than degrees of democrats/liberals/leftists. So when discussions do occur the more leftist sides of arguments are often not even touched upon. And the fact that the CL of this board is a conservative also brings a certain tone to the board, which again is fine, I am not asking this board to change - I just found the original post funny.

And again I do not mean to cause any offense - just my humble little opinion :)

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Thu, 06-26-2008 - 2:03pm

I find it kind of interesting that several conservative posters responded to a claim this board was more conservative than liberal by saying its really pretty even (which I agree wth) yet no one responded to the claim in the OP, that conservatives were a small minority of the board.

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Thu, 06-26-2008 - 2:07pm

"is that the "left" side of this board isn't all that left - it's pretty mainstream Democrat - which is fine. The original post just made me giggle, because overall the discussions just don't bend way to the left IMHO"

Aahhh, that explains it MUCH better. I actually agree :)

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Thu, 06-26-2008 - 2:12pm

The original post said:

"Hey -- I have an idea. Most of y'all dislike the few of us conservatives SO MUCH...how about you just let loose here and let us have it?

I'm pretty sure we can take it."

Where does that say conservatives are a "small minority" on the board?? I took it to mean "the few of us here" as compared to the millions that are out there in real life. As for "conservative bashing", a few posts back I agreed that no such thing is happening here.

ETA: I just noticed this, Rose, you also said: "I find it kind of interesting that several conservative posters responded to a claim this board was more conservative than liberal by saying its really pretty even."

What do you consider to be "several" ? As far as I can count, I responded to the claim and Janet agreed with my response. Am I missing something, or is two considered several?




Edited 6/26/2008 2:34 pm ET by bizzymomoffive
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Thu, 06-26-2008 - 2:54pm

Again...joke.


Lighten up.

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