McCain's attitude towards women

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McCain's attitude towards women
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Tue, 10-21-2008 - 9:12am

I wanted to share perspectives of two real women out there on why John McCain's dismissal of women's health as a valid reason for late term pregnancy termination was so offensive to so many people.

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Registered: 08-05-2004
Tue, 10-21-2008 - 9:25am
Thank you for posting those.
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Registered: 07-23-2008
Tue, 10-21-2008 - 10:13am

I was really upset when McCain said that during the debate as well. I honestly had a lot of respect for McCain before this election year. He has lost all of the respect I had for him by his outrageously (IMO) negative and manipulative campaign tactics (the exact same tactics that he decried in 2000, btw) and his pandering to far right of his party (blatantly evidenced by his VP pick, again, IMO). However, if he had been the same politician he was in 2000 and had made that comment at the debate, it might have been enough, all by itself, to lose my respect. Just disgusting.

I know many of us have anecdotal stories about a woman or women who have used abortion as a form of birth control. Those abuses (if you see them that way) of the procedure are not convincing enough, to me, to take away the right of a woman to save her life if it is in peril. I hate the way that McCain, by using the term pro-abortion, made the procedure look somehow desired. Like there is actually a population of people out there who can't wait to get abortions. Seriously?





~Ashley~




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~Ashley~

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Registered: 10-16-2008
Tue, 10-21-2008 - 11:59am

Can someone explain this better to me? I read both links and both appeared to relate to a women who would be in labor or have labor induced, where the baby would be born and not make it. That's different than a partial-birth abortion, which is against an overt act designed to harm the baby (vs a baby that is born too early to survive, and would not make it no matter what the doctors did). Why would the health of a mother require an overt act to harm the baby during the delivery? If the baby is only 20 weeks I would think an overt act would not be necessary, the baby would not be saved but not because the doctor did something to harm the baby.

I normally would not go seeking out this info but since you posted it now I'm curious. I had an abortion at age 19 and I was pressured to do so by my mom and my boyfriend. I have days I regret it and days I don't think about it and days when I understand my mom's perspective. I am pro-choice but would urge any of my daughters to have the baby should they become pregnant.

Pennsylvania Mom http://openlettertobarack.blogspot.com/
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Registered: 03-16-2007
Tue, 10-21-2008 - 12:37pm

McCain clearly has a problem with respect for women. His comment on health issues being just one. I have heard other comments as well.


The one about women enjoying being raped by an ape, is truly a disturbing look into his view on women.


The fact that he almost never takes his wife's arm when they leave the stage is another.


The way he charges up the staircase to the plane, leaving his wife behind is awfully disrespectful.


What about the

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Registered: 10-16-2008
Tue, 10-21-2008 - 12:57pm

Perhaps he doesn't take his wife's arm because his arms and shoulders are so messed up he has incredibly limited mobility with them.

He let's Palin speak freely. She's going all over the country without him, I've seen more interviews with her than I have with Biden since the conventions. Even if their numbers aren't exact, she's given plenty of them.

I have no idea what the ape reference is to.

If we want to talk about disrespect for women let's talk about my Democratic friends and family members emailing me pictures of Palin with her head pasted on someone else's body, someone painting a nude picture of her and putting it up in his bar, the lack of any outrage from women's groups that someone would make a porno with a Palin lookalike, videos of people saying she was only selected because she has "tits", calling her a stay-at-work mom, that she should be home with her kids.... That is an incredible amount of disrespect for women that I never expected from my Democratic peers, especially the female ones.

Pennsylvania Mom http://openlettertobarack.blogspot.com/
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Registered: 04-18-2006
Tue, 10-21-2008 - 12:57pm

THis is my first time actually posting here.

 

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Registered: 10-26-2003
Tue, 10-21-2008 - 1:17pm

thank you for sharing that perspective.

Bea

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Registered: 10-26-2003
Tue, 10-21-2008 - 1:18pm

thank you for sharing that perspective as well.

Bea

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Registered: 03-09-2007
Tue, 10-21-2008 - 1:24pm

"If we want to talk about disrespect for women let's talk about my Democratic friends and family members emailing me pictures of Palin with her head pasted on someone else's body, someone painting a nude picture of her and putting it up in his bar, the lack of any outrage from women's groups that someone would make a porno with a Palin lookalike, videos of people saying she was only selected because she has "tits", calling her a stay-at-work mom, that she should be home with her kids.... That is an incredible amount of disrespect for women that I never expected from my Democratic peers, especially the female ones."


Please realize that not all Democratic women condone that sort of disrespect.

Jess


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Registered: 03-09-2007
Tue, 10-21-2008 - 1:27pm

Thank you.

Jess


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