To me there is NO way to spin this

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To me there is NO way to spin this
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Mon, 09-13-2010 - 4:53pm

I just believe that it is wrong and the Judge should be dis-barred :(

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Mon, 09-13-2010 - 8:51pm

That sounds like fun... :0)

No, I personally won't go back to teaching, but I am going to finish up my master's in library science and become a school librarian. That's what I originally wanted to do, but one had to have the elementary or secondary education degree first, so that's what I did.

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Mon, 09-13-2010 - 9:34pm

"It's the reason why I will never go back into the classroom as a teacher"



I don't blame you! I wouldn't want to be a teacher in today's classroom...too much unrealistic pressures put on the teachers by the gov't. Kindergarten is equiv to 1st-2nd grade now...wow, just wow! my son is in 1st grade now, and omg i can't believe what he has to learn. i remember learning this stuff in at least 2nd grade, never mine addition and subtraction, i remember that in 3rd grade, but 1st?!? oh i feel for him, he is having a hard time. so do you think it is fair that these kids that can't keep up with todays curriculum are labeled special ed, even though it was typically stuff that was taught 1-2 grades ahead when we were growing up?

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Mon, 09-13-2010 - 9:43pm

Even if they didn't have it up today, I found the August 5th headline a bit odd. I could understand it if the headline was from 2009, the year the first judge made the ruling, but the 8/5/2010 headline (and first few paragraphs for that matter) give the impression as though this ruling was just made. I'd have to say, it seems as though FOX certainly did find a way to "spin this".



Chrissy


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Mon, 09-13-2010 - 10:04pm

I love the Reggio Emilia schools! One of my college friends lent my a book when my eldest was four...I was amazed at the care the teachers put into figuring out how to follow and develop the children's interests.

Deborah

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Mon, 09-13-2010 - 10:14pm

"The appeals court decision is in your OP:



"Charles' ruling was overturned last month by New Jersey's Appellate Court, which ruled that the husband's religious beliefs were irrelevant and that the judge, in taking them into consideration, "was mistaken.""



~That is so weird that Fox would put themselves in that kind of position today.~



I'm not sure what you mean by this. Did Fox have this Aug. 5th item up as today's news?"



Ooops my bad really.

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Mon, 09-13-2010 - 10:42pm

One thing that I find/found interesting - and really I am just playing devil's advocate here - is the question of when it is ok or not ok to take religion into account in making/enforcing laws?

In this case I think we can all agree it is not ok - but with the question of gay marriage or abortion many (not all) want the rest of the country to subscribe to a particular religious viewpoint. I guess you could argue that in the New Jersey case the woman was definitely being harmed, but couldn't you also argue the woman is being harmed when she can't make decisions about her own body in the case of abortion? Suppose this woman had become pregnant by her ex-husband due to the rape - should she be allowed to have an abortion or would she then have to carry the fetus to term and deal with this man for the rest of her life? Because the 'Right to Life' campaign is largely the product of another religious influence.

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Mon, 09-13-2010 - 11:40pm

Judges, teachers, cops, firefighters, park rangers, you name it. My example was one of "public workers paid for by tax dollars". Teachers and policemen are among the top two that come to most people's minds. Feel free to pick any one you choose. The point is the same. Incompetence can be found in all public fields. Justifying it as "OK" because the system will deal with it is well, lame. Not to mention extremely wasteful. But then again if you're not one actually paying taxes....why care? So I do understand the apathy. It's the reason why I caution having such a small pool of actual tax payers. And if you do pay taxes and don't care--you are an ever greater part of the problem.






Edited 9/14/2010 5:31 pm ET by gripcon
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Mon, 09-13-2010 - 11:46pm

I think one of the dumbest things I've ever seen/heard is teacher's using no child left behind as a reason to teach to the standardized test.

Why in the world can't they just teach?

I never taught to one single test but what I did do is teach hard skills. My students were taught how to read and read well and of course they were well taught in mathematics as well. I don't believe that they ever once scored below the 90% percentile on a single standardized test. Oh, and they loved test taking. Guess because it was always taught to be no big thing. But then again when you're not in school learning to be afraid of it--you're actually not. I know lots of others with my exact same experience.

So I have never understood they "need" to teach to the test. I don't believe that was part of the requirement. Too bad not many teachers actually seem to have the courage to forget about teaching to the test and just...taught.

>>Luck is what you call it when preparation meets opportunity<<
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Tue, 09-14-2010 - 8:31am

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That's a bit presumptuous, particularly since I clarified that I didn't justify it has "OK".

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Tue, 09-14-2010 - 8:32am

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Seriously? I don't pay taxes? I'll have to notify the IRS and my state that I need a refund.