Obama Fiddles...

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Obama Fiddles...
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Fri, 09-14-2012 - 10:42pm

So, our embassy is burning, 4 Americans dead, including Ambassador Chris Stevens, whom Obama claims to know.

He's out in Vegas, making jokes and campaigning... he sure got over the Ambassador's death pretty quickly! No time to gather the team and come up with a strategy to handle this crisis, he's too busy.

And what's with Hillary? Is she on drugs or something? She's like a robot. You'd think she is reporting on the weather.

Our sovereignty has been violated, our people murdered, and they go on like nothing happened? Do they get angry about anything, other than the Tea Party?

Clearly, they are in way over their heads.

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Sun, 09-16-2012 - 11:44pm

I'm trying to visualize what Bush would have done if he was running for a second term and this had happened,

He would have announced that he meant business and invaded Iceland.

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Mon, 09-17-2012 - 8:55am

We are already at war with the terrorists, I'm not calling for another war. But this administration has really done a terrible job with foreign policy.

What happened to Obama "resetting" our foreign relations? Everyone was supposed to like us, I guess because Obama is such a nice guy. Big fail.

"Resist, we much. We must, and we much. About that, be committed."

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Mon, 09-17-2012 - 9:38am
I am breaking a self-imposed limit this once. If you are going to make comments about the president, maybe it would be best to have some sense of his character and routine, rather than deciding, on the basis of what seems like nothing in particular, that you know the man. http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/2012/10/michael-lewis-profile-barack-obama

Jabberwocka

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Mon, 09-17-2012 - 12:59pm

I agree we are in conflict with the terrorists both foreign and domestic.  Foreign policy?  I would like to see less foreign aid given to nations that need to solve their own problems.  Middle East is  going to be a powder keg for the foreseeable future.  We must remember how new these governments are.  Saudi Arabia and Iran are sworn enemies.  There is the Sunni vs Shiite conflict.  We in the west have short memories we are supposed to hate Assad of Syria yet he put paid to terrorists in Syria.  We made mistakes under the Bush administration (junior and senior).  No matter who is president we will make other errors too.  American policy has been founded on having people "like" us.  I disagree with that.

dragowoman

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Mon, 09-17-2012 - 7:21pm
No. U.S. foreign policy has rarely, if ever, been formulated with the goal of having the approval or "liking" of other nations.

Using diplomacy to negotiate for goals we support might look less forceful than blustering, threatening, over-reacting, proclaiming an "axis of evil" or "pre-emptively" invading a country. Diplomatic dialog and foreign aid is sometimes construed by the ignorant as weakness. IT IS NOT. One recalls Teddy Roosevelt's adage to "speak softly, and carry a big stick".

I personally am fond of the tar baby analogy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tar_baby If we strike indiscriminately and have no way to extricate ourselves from a sticky situation, it is very easy to wind up being totally bogged down. And when we are bogged down by unnecessary diversions, responding to truly pressing threats becomes difficult, if not impossible.

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Mon, 09-17-2012 - 10:54pm

I agree we're bogged down in the MIddle East and we're not going to make any friends getting out of there again. I think America - regardless of who the president is in November needs a paradigm shift in relation to this particular region of the world. The media's obessions isn't helping things either- why can't anyone keep it classy anymore?

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Mon, 09-17-2012 - 11:57pm
jabberwocka wrote:
I am breaking a self-imposed limit this once. If you are going to make comments about the president, maybe it would be best to have some sense of his character and routine, rather than deciding, on the basis of what seems like nothing in particular, that you know the man. 

He displays his character everyday, in his decisions he makes. We also know his character from his past, despite his attempts to hide it or make it seem trivial. The people that he surrounded himself with, then and now, speaks volumes. He's trying to destroy my country. I want him to stop.

So no, it's way more than nothing. Much more than what is provided by a puff piece in "Vanity Fair".

"Resist, we much. We must, and we much. About that, be committed."

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Tue, 09-18-2012 - 1:01pm

What do you mean destroying your country?

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Tue, 09-18-2012 - 2:27pm
Classy? In this age of "reality TV"? Surely, you jest! Titillation, sensationalism, spin, and rudeness rule more often than not.

Jabberwocka

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