Obama - YES or NO?

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Obama - YES or NO?
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Sat, 10-11-2008 - 12:40pm

Do you think he shares the views of Reverend Wright and William Ayers?


Yes or No? and Why?

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Registered: 10-08-2008
Sat, 10-11-2008 - 2:36pm

I found the transcript from the debate that he had with Clinton:


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/DemocraticDebate/Story?id=4670271&page=2


It sounds to me like he is saying the exact same things now as he did then, so I'm really not sure what the problem is.


 

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Sat, 10-11-2008 - 3:02pm

Yes, he shared views with both his Rev. and Ayers.


He wrote he was first inspired by Rev. Wright

 

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Sat, 10-11-2008 - 3:37pm

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He said both parties are at fault. Which I agree with.

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Driving homeless people to vote is a bad thing? Sorry. I disagree. Knowingly driving them across state lines or to more than one polling place is wrong but driving them to vote is not.

<<"In his capacity as an attorney, Barack represented ACORN in a successful lawsuit alongside the U.S. Department of Justice against the state of Illinois to force state compliance with a federal voting access law. For his work helping enforce the law, called “Motor Voter,” Barack received the IVI-IPO Legal Eagle Award in 1995">>

It was not only ACORN in that case. It was ACORN, The League of Women Voters, and other public-interest groups. The IL Gov refused to implement a FEDERAL LAW allowing anyone to vote who had the legal right hence the lawsuit. Here is the full case report: http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?navby=search&case=/data2/circs/7th/951800.html


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Sat, 10-11-2008 - 4:08pm
Edited to say:
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Sat, 10-11-2008 - 4:37pm

I find it sad people can cast stones at a religion or a church they know little or

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Sat, 10-11-2008 - 4:39pm

Publicly, no.

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Sat, 10-11-2008 - 4:40pm
Honestly I believe that would be less of an issue if everyone had not crucified Obama over the Wright thing. I think that made HER pastor a much much bigger issue that it would have been.


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Sat, 10-11-2008 - 4:42pm
Someone's religious beliefs should not be an issue as long as they do not interfere how they do their job.
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Registered: 10-26-2003
Sat, 10-11-2008 - 4:47pm

Sandy,

I tend to agree with you on this except for one thing. i don't think Obama "lied" so much as answered the question "at that time" as completely as it needed to be answered. i think he did not anticipate how Ayers' past would be highlighted and misconstrued over his present accomplishments. i think his answer was incomplete and i don't think it was intentional.

I no longer work in academics, but the "standard" for determining a co-worker's "value" (so to speak) is related to their current and past academic contributions. In that light, their personal lives and past history are often irrelevant. the focus is on what smarts they bring to a particular field of study or multi-disciplinary project. i worked with one guy who was a nudist, another was a serial philanderer, and probably - unbeknownst to me - a lot of war protesters and drug users. i did not have close relationships with all these people, i socialized with a few (not the nudist and i had to hide from the philanderer).

if you asked me today about my association with one of them, i'd tell you it as casual and we worked at the same university and served on a project together that met 4 times a year - and i wasn't at every meeting.

why was Obama's original statement a lie? and hasn't he added the necessary information?

Bea

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Sat, 10-11-2008 - 4:50pm
I dunno born-again and pentecostal would have been 'big' no matter what I think

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