Palin pick?

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Palin pick?
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Wed, 09-03-2008 - 2:02pm

Palin pick?



  • Always planned on voting for McCain
  • Now voting for McCain because of pick
  • Now voting for Obama because of pick
  • Always planned on voting for Obama


You will be able to change your vote.


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Registered: 09-03-2008
In reply to: schimzoegirl
Wed, 09-03-2008 - 3:32pm
I'm proud of Palin as a female that she has accomplished so much, but in good consciousness I cannot vote for her because she is on the wrong side of the issues! A vote for Palin would be a vote to take away our RIGHT TO CHOOSE!
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Registered: 10-06-2004
In reply to: schimzoegirl
Thu, 09-04-2008 - 8:39am
I am surprised to see so many now voting for Obama because of the pick!
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Registered: 06-23-2008
In reply to: schimzoegirl
Thu, 09-04-2008 - 2:26pm

I'm actually embarrassed to be a woman in this country because so many of you are liberals.

MONTANA MOM !

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Registered: 10-26-2003
In reply to: schimzoegirl
Thu, 09-04-2008 - 3:38pm

i do happen to be liberal and i do happen to be rich by some standards. i also happen to be self-employed and pay taxes quarterly. an astounding amount of taxes four times a year. and then more in April. so don't talk to me about paying taxes. it's my privilege because i have the privilege to live in a country that has opportunities for me AND cares for those who have fewer opportunities. we talk a lot about fighting for our freedom but no one wants to talk about paying for freedom for others.

and if you want to be embarrassed, try living in this country before there were liberal women. before there were equal opportunities. when a man could say anything to you anywhere and all you could do is blush. even if he was your boss or your academic advisor. when you could be terminated for being pregnant. and even if you did get your job back, you got half the pay and half the chance for advancement for working twice as hard. when counselors told you to be a nurse or a secretary or a teacher and that was it. and when you got that job, there was no one to care for your children.

yes liberal women are such a pain. you don't owe them anything.




Edited 9/5/2008 7:34 am ET by queenbea4
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Registered: 04-10-2003
In reply to: schimzoegirl
Wed, 09-10-2008 - 3:44pm

It is because of liberals that Palin's baby will have services to help his Down's Syndrome.

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Registered: 07-05-2006
In reply to: schimzoegirl
Wed, 09-10-2008 - 3:49pm

Based on the various viewpoints you've

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Registered: 04-09-2007
In reply to: schimzoegirl
Wed, 09-10-2008 - 4:04pm

Is that something that you would like to see changed (the requirement to pay taxes quarterly)?

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Registered: 04-08-2003
In reply to: schimzoegirl
Thu, 09-11-2008 - 10:29am

The questions don't cover all the bases. I had decided on Obama before the Palin pick, but not at the beginning. A year ago I was pretty well convinced that I was voting McCain. As the months wore on and I listened to the candidates and their detractors, though a few things became clear.

The republican smear machine was in full force, making the nastiest claims with no evidence and then trumping up stupid counter-claims to pretend that Obama (and now Biden) had said something offensive. These counter-claims had all the intellectual integrity of "OH! He used the word black in a sentence! He must be a racist!" I tried, however, not to judge McCain too harshly just because idiots like Hannity and O'Reilly were supporting him, or because the robots in their audiences were repeating the same stupid stuff.

Now, I knew I disagreed with McCain on some issues - but I agreed on many, as well. And there were and are a number of issues where I think all candidates need to rethink their basic assumptions. But there are two things that really bothered me about Bush and it became clear to me that McCain shared those traits. They're not "issues," but their characteristics that affect how one addresses the issues. The first of these is whether one looks at all the facts or just ignores things one doesn't want to hear. The second is how one handles dissension. (Charges that McCain waffles are actually a potential virtue, imo.) I very reluctantly began to switch over to Hillary - though I dislike her, I think she will at least be willing to change. I did so because, being oblivious to politics, I did not know him.

The more I listened to Obama, the more I thought he has his head in the right place. He's a fairly clear thinker who knows how to get things done - most importantly, I think he will look at all the information and he won't punish people who are opposed to him - he might even solicit contrary opinions. (Although I note that he and McCain have both missed a lot of votes this last year - I don't know if that's normal or relevant, but I've put that on my list of things to eventually inquire about.)

So I had finally made the switch to Obama (quite recently). Biden I thought was a good choice. I'm not a big fan, but at least he has experience on par with McCain's. Obama sees his weakness - not an electability weakness, but an ability to function weakness, and he addresses it with his VP pick.

Enter Palin. Of course, people in AK love her. She gave them a huge tax break - and taxed the oil companies instead. In any other circumstance, people would oppose this because the costs would go on to the consumer. (But republicans don't believe most of the stupidity they spout anyway. Big surprise there.) She's had an *easy* job as governor. Her state has a lot of excess oil money. Still she's done an okay job.

I didn't blame her initially for the fact that conservative extremists seemed to be trying to hide certain very clear statements she made - written comments that she'd had time to reflect over, not off-the-cuff remarks to a reporter. Even when they claimed she had "stood up to" Big Oil, I didn't blame her. I don't even blame her for the comically idiotic attempts to exaggerate her experience. I don't blame her generally for the Squealer-like commentary of O'Reilly, Hannity, Limbaugh.

I don't blame her, but I've become utterly cynical McCain.

And now she has tried on the shoes, the suit, and the vitriol - all a comfortable fit.

"Twelve voices were shouting in anger, and they were all alike. No question, now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which."

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Registered: 06-17-2008
In reply to: schimzoegirl
Thu, 09-11-2008 - 10:34am

Great post!

We can only be said to be alive in those moments when our hearts are conscious of our treasures. 

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Registered: 06-17-2008
In reply to: schimzoegirl
Thu, 09-11-2008 - 10:36am
That's silly.

We can only be said to be alive in those moments when our hearts are conscious of our treasures. 

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