Palin pick?

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Palin pick?
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Wed, 09-03-2008 - 2:02pm

Palin pick?



  • Always planned on voting for McCain
  • Now voting for McCain because of pick
  • Now voting for Obama because of pick
  • Always planned on voting for Obama


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Registered: 04-08-2003
In reply to: schimzoegirl
Tue, 09-16-2008 - 9:25pm
First, that is one sequence of events and it's not as unlikely as you make it sound. If the balance in the court shifted, you can bet your behind the anti-abortion zealots would find a way to get abortion in front of the court again.
Second, that's not the only way the executive gets to affect things. The executive also sets policies that can make abortion more or less difficult - both in the US and overseas.
However, she does not have to become president to effect change, because
Third, the VP gets to vote whenever the senate is tied, and
Fourth, the VP gets good access to the president and she may be able to sway him to act as in the second item.
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Registered: 08-02-2008
In reply to: schimzoegirl
Tue, 09-16-2008 - 10:28pm

The executive executes the laws. Congress makes them. The courts interpret them. The only way to reverse a Supreme Court ruling is if Congress were to pass a law or if a Constitutional Amendment were passed.

>If the balance in the court shifted, you can bet your behind the anti-abortion zealots would find a way to get abortion in front of the court again.

Wow, what power we "zealots" have--we can "find a way" to totally subvert our judicial process and unlawfully invade the system from the local courts, through the appellate courts, and all the way up to the top. Yeah, we'll find a good way to trick 'em all!

If we "zealots" had that much power, don't you think it would have happened during the term of one of the prior "anti-abortion zealot" presidents?

If you understood what Roe v. Wade actually meant, you'd realize that it specifically removed the state's right to override a woman's right to have an abortion, but may limit it to the extent that the limits reasonably take into account the interest in the life and health of the woman. Overturning Roe v. Wade would just return the right to the states to criminalize and prohibit abortion, and broaden the permissible reasons for prohibiting abortion. You'd still be able to get an abortion. The only way you'd only lose your rights if all 50 state legislatures or a constitutional amendment completely criminalized and absolutely prohibited abortion.

Hey--maybe we SuperZealots have the superpowers to cause that to happen, too. Because we wouldn't need to wait for a shift in the balance in the Supreme Court. Every politician has his or her price, right?

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Registered: 04-09-2006
In reply to: schimzoegirl
Tue, 09-16-2008 - 10:41pm

"Obama wants this country to be so government controlled it sick, our freedoms, one by one will vanish under Obama's watch starting with health care."

Hmm...I think that's already happened under the Bush administration. I got a driver's license in a Texas: had to show a social security card (not ever intended to be an ID), plus other documents and thumbprinted. (I've never had any trouble with the law and don't even have a traffic record.) Big brother is already watching. The last time my son went on a plane flight, the TSA took stuff out of his suitcase. Cool. Etc. And lots of people can't afford health care nowadays. A 61 year old co-worker has such enormous medical bills (and this with insurance) that she and her 75 year old husband (with Alzheimer's) have $80 left to get to October.

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Registered: 09-24-2004
In reply to: schimzoegirl
Tue, 09-16-2008 - 11:01pm

There are a lot of stories that are out there about people with sky high medical bills.

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Registered: 08-02-2008
In reply to: schimzoegirl
Tue, 09-16-2008 - 11:03pm

Hmm...I think that's already happened under the Bush administration. I got a driver's license in a Texas: had to show a social security card (not ever intended to be an ID), plus other documents and thumbprinted. (I've never had any trouble with the law and don't even have a traffic record.)

Don't even begin to blame that on Bush. I was thumbprinted writing an in-state check (drawn on a Bank of America account, not some local bank) to a national bank with 3 forms of ID, and that was in 1999. Social Security Numbers were our student ID numbers in college, and that was 1990-94. That's all Clinton years--are you willing to correct your stance to say that it's Clinton's fault?

And that 61 year old co-worker and her 75 year old husband (with Alzheimer's) who have $80 left to get to October--that's a shame. They had no way to see this coming. They relied on pensions and social security, and they couldn't have predicted the prices of things and the corporate greed we pay for. I will pray for them.

However, the rest of us have no excuse. Folks, it's YOUR job to structure YOUR finances so that YOUR family has the healthcare YOU want them to have. I have a family of 9, and our insurance costs $1800 a month. Why don't I complain about it? Because there is no constitutional right to healthcare, and no constitutional basis for making government provide it to us.

I can have compassion for your co worker. I have none for those who have a $3000 a month mortgage, 3 $700 a month car payments, 3 family vacations a year, kids in every lesson and class money can buy, nails done, hair done, plastic surgery done once a year, and then they complain that healthcare is expensive. And don't think these people are rare. They're not rich, they're owned by their credit card, car loan, and mortgage companies.

Buy what you can afford, prioritize your spending, save for your future, don't depend on social security or your pension, and take responsibility for your family. It actually IS your responsibility.

And pray for people who suffer because of circumstances entirely beyond their control.

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In reply to: schimzoegirl
Tue, 09-16-2008 - 11:12pm

If more money is invested in healthcare, expand Medicaid coverage to people who are uninsured, but allow employees the option of keeping their private insurance.

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In reply to: schimzoegirl
Tue, 09-16-2008 - 11:17pm

Don't even begin to blame that on Bush. I was thumbprinted writing an in-state check (drawn on a Bank of America account, not some local bank) to a national bank with 3 forms of ID, and that was in 1999. Social Security Numbers were our student ID numbers in college, and that was 1990-94. That's all Clinton years--are you willing to correct your stance to say that it's Clinton's fault?


I don't know when the practice of using Social Security numbers for ID purposes started, but I will say that my whole adult life this has been the case. Reagan was President at that time.


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Registered: 09-15-2008
In reply to: schimzoegirl
Tue, 09-16-2008 - 11:20pm

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and in an ideal world that's how things would be. those who work hard and make responsible choices would do well and live comfortable, happy lives. but things happen that are out off our control. even with health insurace, medical costs can be astronomical. even if you

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In reply to: schimzoegirl
Tue, 09-16-2008 - 11:26pm

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Registered: 09-24-2004
In reply to: schimzoegirl
Tue, 09-16-2008 - 11:27pm

Not quite.


There will be a watchdog group policing the ability for insurance companies that are not the FEHBP.

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