Palin pick?

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Palin pick?
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Wed, 09-03-2008 - 2:02pm

Palin pick?



  • Always planned on voting for McCain
  • Now voting for McCain because of pick
  • Now voting for Obama because of pick
  • Always planned on voting for Obama


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Registered: 09-08-2008
In reply to: schimzoegirl
Thu, 09-18-2008 - 12:32pm

I agree. My husband is military and his ss# is used for EVERYTHING. My military id has both my ss# and my husband's listed on it so it's a real concern when I have to carry it with me. Just going to the commissary on base requires me to show the card to at least 3 people who really have no business seeing our ss#'s. Not to mention the fact that DH has received at least 2 letters in the past year or two stating that his information may have been stolen from a military database. This is the freakin' military we're talking about - these things should not be happening! The military really needs to get with the times and stop using ss#'s as id numbers.



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Registered: 04-09-2006
In reply to: schimzoegirl
Thu, 09-18-2008 - 1:40pm

"Uhm, I had to provide my birth certificate and my SS card to obtain my first driver's license. I understand that was only 12 years ago, but it is required, at least in Florida."

Loss of privacy is not a new issue. RealID just makes it more pervasive.

I left Texas in 1997, having had a valid driver's license there since the early 1980's. I didn't have to provide a social security number to get it back then. Although some schools, banks, and other institutions have a long policy of asking for social security numbers, until now it has usually been possible to decline. For example, I don't give my children's SSN's to the doctor. They ask every time; I decline every time. They're not on the doctor's payroll.

Here's a quote from the legislature of the state of Utah:REAL ID is "in opposition to the Jeffersonian principles of individual liberty, free markets, and limited government." It further states that "the use of identification-based security cannot be justified as part of a 'layered' security system if the costs of the identification 'layer'--in dollars, lost privacy, and lost liberty--are greater than the security identification provides":

"Exactly what legal recourse do we have if they are licensed and uninsured? Or licensed and under-insured? None."

Maybe none. Most illegal immigrants are here not because they're criminally inclined, but because they're having a tough time back home. Maybe a person who has a valid driver's license, regardless of citizenship, is more likely to follow other laws, like driving a properly registered and insured car. When I moved from another state, I had to prove that I had a car registered in Texas (which requires insurance and an inspection) in order to get my driver's license. I said unbelievingly to the examiner, "I don't have to have a car to get a driver's license", and she said that if I had lived out of state and owned a car, I did.

"So why give them something one step closer to showing citizenship?"

A Social Security number does not show and never has been a proof of citizenship. It was intended for establishing that a person can participate in the Social Security program. The IRS also uses as a unique identifier into their databases to keep track of taxes collected and owed.

RealID doesn't address the illegal immigrant issue at all. That was a smokescreen for getting ordinary Americans to agree to give up their right to the privacy of their financial records. I don't like the idea of Big Brother being able to reconstruct where I've lived, how I was educated, how much money I make and how I spend it, my health records, who my relatives are, how I vote, etc., with a simple database search. I don't want it to be simple for identity thieves to be able to max out my credit cards, drain my bank accounts, and open new accounts in my name, because they had access to my private financial information. We do live in "the information age". A determined person can find out lots of stuff that most people consider "private" information with internet searches through public records. We don't need to make it any easier for entities that may not (in fact most certainly do not) have our best interests at heart, to compile information about us.

iVillage Member
Registered: 03-19-2003
In reply to: schimzoegirl
Thu, 09-18-2008 - 2:05pm
When my son got his permit we had to submit all types of identification.
iVillage Member
Registered: 07-16-2008
In reply to: schimzoegirl
Thu, 09-18-2008 - 2:25pm

I think this may be a generational difference.

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Registered: 04-09-2006
In reply to: schimzoegirl
Thu, 09-18-2008 - 3:54pm
Heh, heh... I doubt it. Most of my same age peers don't have any problem with divulging personal information. Too much, sometimes. When I was a college student, it didn't bother me that my SSN was on my student ID. I became interested in privacy issues when I took a class on the construction of the Constitution.
iVillage Member
Registered: 07-16-2008
In reply to: schimzoegirl
Thu, 09-18-2008 - 5:06pm

Okay.

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iVillage Member
Registered: 05-14-2008
In reply to: schimzoegirl
Thu, 09-18-2008 - 5:27pm

Some business owners might actually be able to provide more jobs or benefits to their employees were it not for their tax burdens. Just because you have more than enough to spare and don't mind throwing it at wasteful government spending doesn't mean you're somehow morally superior to those who feel they are in a better position to decide the proper use of the money they've earned.

You are always free to send in as much of your earnings to help the government as your heart desires. If you enjoy it so much and feel it is such an honor, please share with us how much extra you pay towards that end? Or maybe you simply fail to claim all the deductions and credits you're entitled to so as to lesson the burden of others.

Please keep your hands out of my pockets though. It's in poor taste not to.

iVillage Member
Registered: 05-14-2008
In reply to: schimzoegirl
Thu, 09-18-2008 - 5:30pm

As a business owner I can answer that. No. It would be better to pay once, at the end of the year. It's a burden to pay on your "anticipated" earnings when you're trying to make a payroll, waiting on invoices to be paid, don't know what the renewal rate on your insurance premiums are going to be, etc...and to have to "guess" what the right amount should be.

But it gives the IRS yet another reason to penalize you when you don't guess right!

iVillage Member
Registered: 05-14-2008
In reply to: schimzoegirl
Thu, 09-18-2008 - 5:32pm
Great question! Beat me to the punch! Amazing how much power people falsely believe the president and vice president have! Whatever happened to civics education?
iVillage Member
Registered: 05-14-2008
In reply to: schimzoegirl
Thu, 09-18-2008 - 5:34pm

Could agree with you more on that lacking education system.

Abraham Lincoln was a republican....in case you didn't know.

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