pro-life: keep abortion legal

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pro-life: keep abortion legal
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Sun, 12-14-2008 - 12:43pm

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Wed, 12-24-2008 - 2:39am
Exactly! I totally agree with everything you said.

 

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Registered: 09-15-2008
Wed, 12-24-2008 - 11:09am

just because you agree with her, doesnt mean she is correct. as the article i posted earlier in this thread stated the phrase 'pro-life' was not first used in reference to abortion.

people on here have claimed that others are twisting the meaning of pro-life to include things other than abortion. but really, arent those claiming to be pro-life, who are only opposed to abortion, twisting the meaning of the word 'life'? and yes, i think the phrase 'pro-choice' is also misleading.

call me radical (it wont be the first time, lol!)but i for one, have trouble believing that anyone in this country is truly pro-life. as i interpret to mean, being pro-ALL-life. human, animal, or plant. if anyone on this planet fits my definition of the word they would probably be the jains:

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History suggests that various strains of Hinduism became vegetarian due to strong Jain influences. Jains run animal shelters all over India. For example, Delhi has a bird hospital run by Jains. Every city and town in Bundelkhand has animal shelters run by Jains where all manner of animals are sheltered, even though the shelter is generally known as a Gaushala ("sacred cow").

Jainism's stance on nonviolence goes far beyond vegetarianism. Jains refuse food obtained with unnecessary cruelty. Many practice a lifestyle similar to veganism, due to the violence of modern dairy farms, and others exclude root vegetables from their diets to preserve the lives of these plants. Potatoes, garlic and onions in particular are avoided by Jains. Devout Jains do not eat, drink, or travel after sunset, and prefer to drink water that is boiled and then cooled to room temperature. Many Jains abstain from eating green vegetables and root vegetables one day each week. The particular day, determined by the lunar calendar is Ashtami (eighth day of the lunar month), New Moon, the second Ashtami and the Full Moon night.>>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jainism#Main_points

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Registered: 12-08-2008
Wed, 12-24-2008 - 2:38pm

And neither was the term "gay" originally used to mean homosexual. But we all know what it predominately means today when used.

So really the origins of a word or term don't necessarily mean anything. Not when 99.9% of the population knows that someone who claims to be "pro-life" means they don't support abortion.

Those against the death penalty typically are known to be anti-capital punishment or anti-death penalty.

Part of communicating is understanding how words/terms are used and understood. So if you go around proclaiming you are "gay" don't be surprised that 99.9% of the population will assume you're a homosexual and not that you're merely of good cheer.

Edited 12/24/2008 2:40 pm ET by sandyluv88




Edited 12/24/2008 2:40 pm ET by sandyluv88
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Registered: 12-10-2008
Wed, 12-24-2008 - 3:17pm

Quick note - huge numbers *in the prolife movement *do consider "prolife" to mean against executions as well as abortion, so your analogy is moot.

Kate


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Kate

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Registered: 12-08-2008
Wed, 12-24-2008 - 3:27pm

Because you say it doesn't make it so:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pro-life

If you want to find a published source to reference such as the one provided above I'd be glad to take a look.

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Registered: 09-15-2008
Wed, 12-24-2008 - 4:23pm

my point was simply that those against abortion did not 'coin' the term 'pro-life' as you claimed.

and yes, if someone says they are pro-life i would expect them to oppose abortion, at least on a personal level. but i would also expect them to be against other things as well: at minimum, euthanasia (as stated on prolife.com).

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exactly. and as kdrangfly said, lets call a spade a spade and call those people claiming to be pro-life what they really are: anti-right to abort, anti-abortion, or even pro-right to life. is the deceiving, appealing to emotions term 'pro-life' really applicable to these people?

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Registered: 09-15-2008
Wed, 12-24-2008 - 5:03pm

also, just because it is/is not in a book does not make it so.

i'll use your earlier example of the word 'gay.' today, in the dictionary the definition of gay is still 'cheery', etc, but 'homosexual' is also listed. the word 'gay' was used to describe homosexuals before the word 'homosexual' was listed as a definition of the word
'gay' in the dictionary.

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Wed, 12-24-2008 - 6:47pm
My definition of gay is to HAVE a social relationship first.
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Registered: 12-10-2008
Wed, 12-24-2008 - 7:38pm

It's the stance of the Vatican and many Catholics in my country (which, by the way, abolished the death penalty) and yours.

Kate

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Registered: 12-10-2008
Wed, 12-24-2008 - 7:43pm

Yup.


I think I'm going to move on from this point.

Kate

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